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Newest Wax Stove design.

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Russell Lawson BPL Member
PostedJul 20, 2015 at 10:02 am

Hey if you're reading this then you must not be bored of my wax stove designing, I know I'm not. In the past I've developed a complex tall and efficient and a UL stove design that funnel the wax gas to a cleaner burning blue flame. Well this design takes from the typical wood gas stove but in a smaller volume basin to run off of 1oz of fuel max. The goal of this stove was to increase the flow by having a larger flame area so that I could use only beeswax and stop using paraffin. Previous models only worked best with paraffin because beeswax has a quicker flow so more gas escapes unburnt.

You can buy both pieces at cashandcarry, a stainless steel portions cup, and the 1oz side to a two sided 1&1 1/2oz measuring cup.1
It weighs 1.2ounces and burns 8grams of fuel. Boils 16ounces of water in 11 minutes, rolling boil at 13.5minutes, and keeps a strong flame for 30 minutes.
There are 12 1/16" holes on the rim of the inner chamber, and 6 3/8 slits on the funnel side, and 12 whatever drill bit holes around the sample cup. I want to drill more small holes there but broke all my bits.2
Just ignited, instantly put bowl on top.3
3 minutes in.4
later.5
some wind.6
at 30 minutes.7
33minutes.8

PostedJul 20, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Russell,

I've been following your experiments with wax stoves. Yours are the most efficient and practical of any wax stoves I've seen on BPL. How much soot is left on the pot?

Russell Lawson BPL Member
PostedJul 22, 2015 at 12:59 pm

I appreciate the comments, glad this hobbie is of interest. This guy is sooty because the pot is put on while in the warmup stage of the stove, nothing over the top. Each stove takes another step in the right direction with better features, can't wait until fall when I get some time to dishout the masterpiece.
Thanks for the support

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJul 23, 2015 at 5:50 am

Will your pot bottom remain clean if you wait till after the warm up period?

What is the average warm up time?

Do you use a mini bic to ignite the wax? Does the wax ignite easily? Do you ignite the wax and then drop it into the burn chamber? What is your procedure?

Once the flame is burning clean/blue, does a slight breeze make it go orange/sooty flame. Does a more vigorous breeze blow it out and have to reignite?

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedJul 23, 2015 at 9:41 am

Russel, try burning some Vaseline in your stove and see what happens. I made a stove back in 2007 that did well with it:

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David Thomas BPL Member
PostedJul 23, 2015 at 9:56 am

Many already know this, put just in case:

Coating the bottom of your pot with soap – rubbing on a bar of soap or letting a thin film of liquid soap dry on the pot – makes clean-up really easy. Soot from a wax stove and even creosote and tars from a wood fire wash off easily if the pot has been soaped up beforehand.

You could do it before each meal if you wash the outside of the pot after every use, but I'd do it before the trip while at home, repack the pot in a plastic bag each day, and then wash it when I got home. There will be a few scraps where all the soap was rubbed off that are harder to clean, but the vast majority of the pot's bottom will clean up easily.

Russell Lawson BPL Member
PostedJul 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm

soot seems to be the big concern with wax for sure, I bypassed it by using a reflectix cozy. I gave up turning rags black by cleaning the outside of my bowl.

As for my process, I just roll up the beeswax to fit inside the chamber with a clear gap down the middle for more airflow. then rip and fray one corner to light with a bic. It takes about 5 seconds to light, 10 or more for melting wax off the fibers if there isnt frayed cotton fibers exposed. I try not to design the need to drop wax in due to it's failure potential.

Wind does cause yellow flame for sure, it will not put out the flame ever, only push fuel out to quickly, wasting it. The flames get huge when used without a windscreen on a breezy day. Even in the perfect conditions there is still waxy residue on the pot even if you wait the 3 to 4 minutes for wax to melt and turn to vapor. There is a picture in my first stove article of the before and after on a virgin Sp Ti bowl with old stove design.1

My next design will be exactly like this stove except inverted for a volcano funnel rocket flame so it works best for small diameter pots and shooting for less than an ounce. It seems 11 minutes is the minimum time to boil 16oz water due to the 3 to 4 minute warmup and 7 to 8 minutes of high heat. But somewhere out there is the perfect wax design waiting to be discovered.

Russell Lawson BPL Member
PostedJul 23, 2015 at 2:54 pm

sweet vaseline stove too, I'm sure it runs with the same princibles as wax. I want to integrate a potstand with the stove, because the height between the rim and pot bottom is the hinderance to cause the vapors to hit the sweetspot of airflow for that nice blue flame

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