Flash Reviews No. 11

[Stephanie Jordan]

Companion forum thread to:

Flash Reviews No. 11

[Jeff McWilliams]

This device seems similar to how the now discontinued MSR MIOX worked.

Any idea how it's different? With a treatment time of 30 minutes for Giardia, and 4 hours for Crypto, I'm not sure I understand the advantages of this device vs Chlorine Dioxide, in either tablet or droplet form.

How long/often have you used the socks? Several reviews of Hanz socks on Amazon suggest they don't last very long before the layers de-laminate and they begin to leak.

[Dan @ Durston Gear]

The Hanz socks look like SealSkinz socks, which are reported to leak pretty early on. I wonder if they're made by the same folks?

[Kevin Buggie]

The 'inventor' of this water purification system is the same guy who licensed the technology to MSR for the miox a few years back, according to a recent Albuquerque Journal article (the guy is from NM). IIRC, no memorable changes to the underlying technology compared to the miox.

Maybe a BPL historian/link master can post some of the past reviews of the miox method used in an UL context (ie. it was not received well)

[marvin barg]

Hanz is indeed the former SealSkinz USA which was manufacturing under licence from SealSkinz in the UK. Since the quality of SealSkinz USA had declined so much, they lost the licence and began manufacturing under the Hanz name.

My take, don't buy Hanz. Buy the original and much more superior products from the original manufacturer. I think Sealskinz (UK) now has shipping depots in Canada and the USA. Grampa Kilt

[Ken Thompson]

MIOX Scored below average.

[Ken Thompson]

Sealskinz

[sean neves]

Just wanted to tune in on that device. Glad it's rechargeable, but it a serious party foul that the battery appears to be NON user replaceable. With the many quality rechargeable/replaceable li-ion cells on the market that is inexcusable. The battery will die. Period. That's just what they do. Plus with replaceables, you can just pop one in when the other is dead. Not so here. You didn't catch a charge? Sorry. Also, that solar cell won't recharge much unless it requires a very small voltage/wattage. In my experience, you need a bunch of cells to do any real work.

Color me skeptical.

[Dan @ Durston Gear]

I had a MIOX about 8 years ago. I had fun geeking out for a bit but I eventually realized that you can do the same thing with tablets for way less weight, hassle and risk. Get AquaTabs (sodium dichloroisocyanurate) if you're okay not killing crypto, or spend more for chlorine dioxide tablets (AquaMira/Katadyn) if you want to wait 4 hrs to kill crypto.

[Roger Caffin]

> Maybe a BPL historian/link master can post some of the past reviews of the miox
> method used
I reviewed it for BPL. It STANK. It was revolting. My wife is tolerant, but she would not even go near the results.

Cheers

[Jeffs Eleven]

Isnt the 4hr wait time for really cold water?

My understanding is the colder the water the longer the wait… near freezing water is 4hr wait time, 30min for warmer waters.

[John Vance]

I tried that tech for a bit but it certainly wasn't for me because of taste and wait times. I was an early adopter of UV and haven't looked back. My next favorite is no treatment at all and I would say that is about a third of the time.

[David Ure]

"Isnt the 4hr wait time for really cold water?

My understanding is the colder the water the longer the wait… near freezing water is 4hr wait time, 30min for warmer waters."

That is correct. It starts working right away.

[David White]

On July 7th I got a SPAM email ad ostensibly from BPL and even signed by RJ for the Potable Aqua product extolling it's virtues and encouraging me to buy it.

Did anyone else get it?

If this was really from BPL, then I an very disappointed to be receiving this kind of trash email from them.

If it is NOT from BPL, then they really need to investigate this "endorsement." I'd be happy to forward the email on to someone for further investigation if called for.

[Ken Thompson]

I got it too. First one of its kind in all my time here. Trying something new. Not a fan of this approach either. Don't waste your time posting complaints here where they will not be dealt with, Email [email protected] and tell him how you feel.

[BlackHatGuy]

Didn't get it. If it did indeed come from BPL, again, I wonder if, since I'm not signed up to receive BPL emails I don't get some of this stuff y'all do.

Unlike seeing ads on the site, such spam, if from BPL, is a significant shift, and not a welcome one at all.

From the account information page (I bolded some info):

Privacy Policy. We use your personal information strictly to assess use statistics at our Web site and to understand how people are using the site. This allows us to respond to customer interest most appropriately and develop content that appeals to our readership. Under no circumstances will we sell your private information with another party.

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[Ken Thompson]

"since I'm not signed up to receive BPL emails" Bingo!

[Roger Caffin]

Please send a full copy of the email (ie 'forward') to
[email protected]

As far as I know, Ryan is away in the mountains, and has been so for several days.

Cheers

[David White]

Roger:I'll forward that email to you tonight.

FWIW: I really hope this wasn't authorized. BPL seems IMHO to have made several missteps lately (I won't go into details as they've been thrashed to death in other threads), but this type of spam, if authentic, would be another step down the slope.

[Cayenne Redmonk]

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WATER TREATMENT FOR SUMMER HIKING:

BENEFITS OF ELECTROCHEMICAL WATER TREATMENT TECHNOLOGIES

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As you research options for treating your water from backcountry water sources, you are going to learn about many different methods – including both gravity feed and hand pump filtration, chemicals, ultraviolet light, and electrochemical methods.

Not all of these methods are effective against waterborne pathogenic viruses or protozoan cysts like Giardia and Cryptosporidia. One method that is effective against nearly every type of pathogen, however, is the electrochemical technology that creates a solution of mixed oxidants.

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