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Four Pass Loop (Colorado) – A few questions…

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Al K BPL Member
PostedJul 14, 2015 at 10:32 am

It appears to be about a 25 mile lollipop loop with about 7500 ft elevation gain that I am thinking of doing in two days / one night in beginning to mid-October. The reason why I am considering October is because of fall colors plus it seems that thunderstorm season is over. This will be my first time in Colorado. A few questions…

1)Am I being too aggressive doing it in two days? To compare, I just did 60 miles from South Lake to Onion Valley which included 12,500 ft elevation gain in 4 days. Also, I should be 7lbs lighter in Colorado (total 22lbs) though the average elevation/altitude will be higher.

2)Will water be plentiful?

3)What kind of temperature ranges should I expect so I can bring the right sleeping bag and jacket?

4)I would be flying in and taking a chance on weather. Previous or forecasted snow buildup on the trail would cause me to cancel. Based on my timeframe am I taking too much of a chance on a $200 ticket? Worst comes to worst I can cancel or pick a lower elevation trail.

5)I believe bear cans are not required, however, what do people do to protect food from little critters? I do not plan on any side trips so my food/backpack will always be with me. Would something like the Ursack/OPSAK combo be sufficient? I have always used a bearvault before which I would be happy to leave at home.

6)Any special gear considerations above and beyond a standard JMT hike?

J-L BPL Member
PostedJul 14, 2015 at 10:40 am

According to the Forest Service website, bear canisters are required in the Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness:

http://tinyurl.com/npr6owo

I'll be there a little after Labor Day. I'm planning on nightly lows around 30F, possibly dipping down to 20F. From my research, it seems October would have a very high chance of snow, but someone more familiar probably knows better

HkNewman BPL Member
PostedJul 14, 2015 at 1:50 pm

Check the new regulations out on bear cans (call before they get real busy Aug – they've always recommended bear cans, but may be required after last summer), as they may not have updated all their webpages. I did a 2.25 day loop last year, when a bear got habituated (raiding camps, chasing hikers). 2 days was doable in August but means hiking from sun up to the sun going down even if weather turns. October the days will be a little shorter.

USA Duane Hall BPL Member
PostedJul 14, 2015 at 8:48 pm

I attempted it last Oct. Was not prepared for the deep snow that dumped earlier in the week and stayed on the passes. Most other areas had melted pretty good, wet trail closer to the top. I would have been miserable if I had tried to go over more passes, snow was thigh deep over a couple. Positive side, I bagged a couple nights bping in CO.
Duane

Randy Nelson BPL Member
PostedJul 15, 2015 at 5:38 pm

If you handle elevation well and are in pretty good shape, it's certainly doable in 2 days. We did it a few years ago and didn't start until 11 the first day and were out by 4 or 5 the second. we passed 6 or 7 people (we were going counter clockwise) who were doing it as a day hike/run. But I think October is pushing it. Just after Labor Day when the crowds have thinned out is an awesome time to go.

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