Bikepacking gear list experiment

Dang, those dry-lites are 18oz/pair? I had no idea they were so heavy.

There truly don't seem to be any ultralight panniers or bikepacking bags out. Nearly every framebag/pannier/handlebar bag I've seen in person has been way overbuilt and unneccessarily heavy.

Incredible with the over saturation of bikepacking gear makers that people aren't making truly ultralight bags. My own bags made from Xpac x21 and Cuben have held up great and I can't see a need for anything more robust.

About the list, it looks legit for a varied terrain, long distance bike/hike. What are your weather/distance/terrain considerations?

Are you hiking long distances in to camp or just doing day hikes?

Could you get away with a lighter/smaller volume pack?

Lighter weight spare tubes are available. A patch kit is always worth it.

You mention not liking traditional backpacking bags, but have you tried a frame bag that still leaves room for water bottles? I use a hybrid cuben version and it weight 3.1oz. More volume than a small handlebar bag.

I'm planning an Oregon coast tour in early August. Hoping to fit my whole kit in a pair of front panniers I made (sub 10oz). This will be a road tour, but the same kit is what I use for bikepacking (minus water filter and a pannier-pack conversion harness)

Bike bags do take a beating, but no manufacturer that I have seen follows anything like the construction and durability of the better UL pack makers. Bike bags tend to have many widgets, pockets, etc— and the fabrics are much heavier. In the same vein, most touring gear lists are way heavy, much like traditional backpacking, and starting the same death spiral of heavier packs for heavier gear— the typical 4 panniers plus trunk and handlbar bag. What DO they putvin there??? Although I dont use the seat and frame bags of typical bikepackers, those compact bags elicit some very Spartan gear lists. If there's no room, it ain't going!

I expected less robust materials as I never put hands on the Dry Lites before buying them on eBay. They are 2 ounces over the advertised weight, but may that doesn't include the dowels used in the suspension? So they are tougher than I thought. The additional 2oz doesn't bother me.

Can I use a smaller, lighter pack? We're at 9oz/25 liters here, so the only significant change would be a waterproof Cuben stuff sack, or a silnylon one. The idea of using a pack is for hybrid trips. I own it too :)

I'm running 26×2.10 tires, so the tubes are huge. I haven't got into tube weights/durabily yet, but I doubt it would change more than a couple ounces.

There are all kinds of places on this list to shave weight: electronics, tools, sit pad, stainless water bottle, clothing, bivy, first aid kit, chemicals over filter, and so on.

Im used to some other tactics with hiking, like ONE bag, poncho rain gear, no tools/parts, much lighter headlamp and spares, so there were some "gear list shocks" on this one. The principles are the same: take only what you will use, seek the lightest alternatives, and multi-use, have a tightly coordinated clothing system. Compromise rules!

My packing tactic is to use the panniers for clothing, shelter, sleep gear, and whatever hardware I dont need right at hand, leaving food, water, kitchen and extra water in the top bag with the sleep pad lashed on somewhere. Glasses, phone, camera, sunscreen, maps and lighting go up front in the handlebar bag. I'm going to do some trial runs on packing soon.

It seems ideal to have all your heaviest things as low as possible. I'm not a fan personally of having water on top of a rack. Especially with technical riding off road it tends to throw the rear end around. If you aren't intending to use water bottle cages, why not? And how much water are you gonna hump from filter stop to filter stop? There is a art to finding balance between carrying enough water, and stopping too frequently to filter. When biking, you can cover more ground faster, and water sources may appear more frequently.

Here is my road tour load out minus food and water. Frame bag is 1/3 full and panniers are about 1/2 full. Plenty of room left for lots of fresh produce.

For bikepacking, I switch rigs and use a 26" MTB with a rear rack and full framebag. Nearly the same packing list, with the addition of a water filter, an esbit stove/pot and straps to turn pannier into a backpack(all additions less than 10oz).

I am also of the mind that a rear rack and lightweight panniers are preferable to a seat bag and handle bar bag. I really don't like weight on my handlebars, and panniers will keep the center of gravity much lower. Plus the added benefit that my pannier converts to a backpack makes it a win/win. AND the utility of having a rack is great for hauling any extra things you might find in your travels..

I do use a frame bag though, and I love the things to death. Even for commuting and errands around town, I love my frame bags.

Agreed on weight distribution. I have just one cage and hate the idea of montingvthrm on the forks two liters well packed and tied down the the rack will be fine.

The weight density of the other stuff isn't that great and there isn't much of it. Items like tools, spare batteries, the *€£¥% TUBE can go on the very bottom. If we were talking about 35 pounds, it would be a different ball game.

Update: I see that Maxxis offers a "fly weight" tube in 26×2.10 size that is 3.4oz/95g. The compromise is the 0.45mm thick walls.

As it is, I double-checked the tube on the scale and noticed that it was a Schraeder vlave tube and I needed Presta. That saved a headache down a dusty trail somewhere! The XLC brand Presta tube is "just" 6.2oz :)

On tools, I found the Park Tool MT-1 that has the Allen key sizes I want and more in a 1oz package for $10.