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Russ W BPL Member
PostedMay 27, 2015 at 3:53 pm

BPL Community…..I need your help!!

As an introduction, I’m a long-time backpacker, AT Thru in 1983, 53 years old and in very good shape and a full BPL convert. I’ve had some great trips in Glacier, Southern Utah, the White Mtns., The Great Smoky Mtns., Linville Gorge, Wilson Creek, and a bunch of points in between. The more recent trips have involved my two sons, ages 20 & 22 and ever since the Glacier trip, they and my wife have been after me to plan an epic adventure for the three of us boys. So I applied for permits at Glacier & Rainier (Wonderland)………DENIED!!! Given how hard it is to get the young folk together simultaneously for a few weeks, dang it, I’m gonna make something big happen, and I think that something big is going to be the Bridger Wilderness/Wind River Range.

So here’s the deal. I need to plan a trip between 7/15 and 8/20 to meet college schedules. Looking for 7 or 8 nights, 100 miles or so, nothing technical enough to get us in serious trouble, and an epic trip worthy of the effort and expense. East coast gets us to Salt Lake City and a rental car……

Can you offer general advice in terms of general trips and reference information, and is there possibly someone very experienced with this area in particular that would graciously spend some time with me to help me figure out a workable plan? Thank you so much.

George F BPL Member
PostedMay 27, 2015 at 9:09 pm

I think the Winds could be a good answer for what you are looking for. If you start at the Boulder trailhead you can head south along the Highline trail for a couple of days, get over to the high route for several days of epic travel going north, then back to the Highline to return to the trailhead. There are lots of options depending on how strong your party is and how comfortable you are with off trail travel. A loop here also offers a lot of flexibility, if you are moving well you can stretch it a bit, if you are slowed down it can be trimmed without changing the heart of the trip. If you do go to the Winds the later in the season you can manage the better, the skeeters can get bad in July. A couple of good resources are "Climbing and Hiking in the Wind River Mountains" by Kelsey and "Beyond Trails in the Wind River Mountains of Wyoming" by Pallister. For maps the Earthwalk Press Hiking Map & Guide are great for planning, get both, North and South. If you are interested I would be more than happy to share some specific ideas and experiences with you, it would give me something to play with while I am waiting for my vacation to roll around.

John Smith BPL Member
PostedMay 27, 2015 at 11:07 pm

I did this lat August last year and it was beautiful and glorious. I grew up in Alaska and have done some all time classic trips there and this fit in nicely with the only difference being more people on the trail.

You will not regret the trip.

Ryan Smith BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2015 at 5:36 am

I was in a similar boat as you a few weeks ago and decided on a section of the Colorado Trail. San Luis Pass to Molas Pass. Flights to Denver are cheap through Frontier and the Colorado Trail only requires walk in permits to be filled out and carried with you.

With that said, I think the Wind Rivers would be a more scenic trip(although the Collegiate West loop area may rival it). One reason we chose this trip is so we could also check out some of the mountain towns such as Telluride, Ouray, Silverton, etc.

Ryan

PostedMay 28, 2015 at 7:12 am

You will be happier in the winds i think! Epic trails, some of the best hiking I've ever done (and I've been all over the world) and a lot fewer people than you would get on the Wonderland or Glacier.

No permits – literally just drive up and start walking wherever you want, including a lot of relatively easy off-trail stuff.

John Vance BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2015 at 7:57 am

I too have been all over the globe an the Winds are second to none, although Patagonia is pretty sweet as well but isn't an option based on your criteria. ;-) There are a number of loops and figure eights that can be done for an 8-10 day trip and the recommended guide book should get you started.

Russ W BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm

Many thanks to you all, and since I'm from the South I think that's supposed to be a plural for "all y'all". This is exactly what I was looking and hoping to receive..enough expertise not to call me an idiot, provide me with a healthy dose of confidence, and a volunteer to help me figure it out.

George – Looking at your previous contributions (you know what you're doing) and the awesome backpack you created, I'm going to take you up on your offer of help. Can I PM you to get started?

Ryan – Thanks for the Colorado Trail suggestion. I've heard wonderful things and will definitely put this or some variation on the bucket list…good suggestion.

Happy Trails – Russ

George F BPL Member
PostedMay 28, 2015 at 5:22 pm

Russ, please do, I would be more than happy to share with you. As your trip takes shape be sure to post it up here again, a lot of BPL'ers know and love the Winds and would be happy to get their two cents in.

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