“Old” Houdini 10 or 15 Denier Fabric? Has Patagonia changed it again?

I spoke with someone on Pata's live chat just now and they said they did change it from the 10 denier in 2014 to a 15 denier for the 2015 version. Interesting, I wonder how it will compare to the older iterations.

Sounds promising. I really did send them a flaming email that suggested they take the person/committee responsible for the 2012 fabric change out behind the shed and let them have it :)

And they DO have a shed!

Where's Nisely? We need a test!

As of June 2012,

Details
Incredibly light textured soft shell, made of slightly transparent, highly breathable, strong triple-ripstop nylon
Nylon ripstop is treated with a Deluge® DWR (durable water repellent) finish
Deluge DWR-coated center-front zipper
Zippered exterior chest pocket converts into a stuffsack with a reinforced carabiner clip loop
Hood opening and field-of-vision adjustment in one pull; elastic cuffs; drawcord hem
Can be worn over baselayers and light midlayers
Reflective heat-transfer logo at left chest
1-oz 15-denier 100% nylon ripstop with a Deluge® DWR (durable water repellent) finish
121 g (4.3 oz)
Made in Vietnam.

Windshirts are softshells now?
Is a canvas artic anorak a softshell now too?

I hope it's true but I think it's been 15 denier since the change to less breathable material in 2013. The Fall 2014 hoodless model available on the website lists 15 denier.

March 2013,

Details

Made of highly breathable and strong nylon ripstop with a Deluge® DWR (durable water repellent) finish
Zippered chest pocket converts to a stuff sack with a reinforced carabiner clip loop
Hood adjusts in one pull and won't hinder peripheral vision
Durable half-elastic cuffs; drawcord hem
Reflective logo at left chest and below neck
Can be worn over baselayers and light midlayers
1.2-oz 10-denier 100% nylon ripstop with a Deluge® DWR (durable water repellent) finish
113 g (4 oz)
Made in Vietnam.

I know video may be the last thing to get updated but the current video still says 10D.

Upcoming look-book says 15 denier….

So is all right in the universe again?

So based on the info here I decided too buy one of the 2015 15D Houdinis. I never had the privilege to try one of the earlier ones, so I have no idea if the new fabric is the same as the old. Does anyone know if you could blow air easily through the older ones? The new one is very difficult to blow air through almost feels like a rain jacket. I assume this will change with use though.

I have a Houdini from 2008 or 9. I think it was the very first model. No little breast pocket and weird foam stoppers for the tiny little elastic cords in the hood. You can blow air through it, but not very easily.

Has Patagonia listened and changed the fabric back to the good stuff

Thread size is one factor that influences breath-ability. Calendaring is another factor … a negative factor. I'm not as sure but I think DWR is a negative factor.

+1 that it would be nice if Richard would test this version … who want's to take a chance to buy one and loan it to him?