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Pegs for upper Alps (WHR/TMB)

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Gregory Stein BPL Member
PostedApr 27, 2015 at 5:15 am

Hi,

I'm a happy user of MSR groundhogs. However in the desert I had hard time pushing them into hard soil. I suppose in the Alps the soil is the same, very hard. I will camp also in valleys and campsites so there my groundhogs will be the best. However I'm not going to carry 2 sets of pegs. I'm thinking to go for 7 hooks and 2 nails for making holes (for duplex tent), all Ti stakes.

Does this make sense?

Thanks,

Greg.

PostedApr 27, 2015 at 11:39 pm

I don't think the soil in the Alps will be anything like the desert. It'll be either meadows or rock. The soil is usually great for stakes in the meadows, easy to stake but firm and with good holding power. The Groundhogs are perfect in such terrain but the nails and the hooks will work too.

Gregory Stein BPL Member
PostedApr 28, 2015 at 2:00 am

I'll go 3 nails + 7 hooks for te duplex. Total 8 stakes required, so one hook and one nail as spare.

Here in the desert we have really hard rocks. In some places it is almost impossible to use pegs, so we tie to big rocks.

Will ultralight versions of Vargo nails and hooks work? I just broke both ultralight nails in the desert (they break right at the hole where the red cord goes).

Thank you for your helpful answers.

Greg.

PostedApr 28, 2015 at 1:25 pm

I now use Ground Hogs exclusively, except for SMR snow stakes in sandy soil.

Ground Hogs of either length are THE strongest aluminum stakes available. You can pound on them with a rock fairly hard before they begin to bend. The newer twisted extrusions are even stronger than the original straight versions.

Gregory Stein BPL Member
PostedApr 29, 2015 at 2:19 am

I think that it will be much harder to push groundhogs into ground because of the fins or "wings". Nails are best for hard soils.
However holding power of GH much better. Maybe it's good idea to toss in 1-2 GHs in case one corner will fall on more sandy soil.

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