Want stove that can boil H2O in a wide-mouth stainless steel bottle

[Roleigh Martin]

I used to do my annual JMT hike with ultralight plastic bottles, but after they cracked, I went with a Nalgene bottle, but when they cracked, I went (for only 1/2 oz more weight) a non-insulated stainless steel wide-mouth 1 liter bottle such as shown here.

I'd like to find something like a pocket rocket stove that can also use this bottle (with the lid removed) to boil water, but with the narrow diameter of the bottle (100% equal to the diameter of a Nalgene wide mouth 1 liter bottle), I don't know what is the best tiny stove to get whose pot adapter will fit such a narrow and tall pot like this. Any recommendations?

[Roger Caffin]

Well, ANY stove can do that. Just apply heat.

The Pocket Rocket you mentioned is one of the worst stoves I have ever seen, so I suggest something else. Maybe the BRS-3000T we recently reviewed? Or an FMS-116T or FMS-300T?

Small base just means don't turn the flame up too far.

Cheers

[Roleigh Martin]

Thanks Roger, do you have any recommendations for one that has a reliable self-igniter? I see the first one you recommend has a pot diameter support of 85mm which should safely support the bottle I have which is 80mm wide (diameter).

[Ken Thompson]

a reliable self-igniter = oxymoron

All worthless at altitude. All fail over time.

A mini Bic does dual purpose and is not much heavier that the piezo igniter.

Your looking for a stove with a small burner head that sends the flames more up than out. Like a Snow Peak Gigapower. GST -100, among others.

[Greg Mihalik]

Or… A custom caldera cone, with the bottle supported by a silicone band.

Stability Will be an issue.

[Bob Gross]

"small burner head that sends the flames more up than out"

That sounds like a Pocket Rocket, but Roger hates those.

–B.G.–

[Ken Thompson]

"That sounds like a Pocket Rocket, but Roger hates those."

Notice I suggested something else Bob. Another helpful post from You. What is this, Twitter?

[Bob Gross]

Ken, for Roleigh's benefit I was just explaining why Roger states some of the things that he does.

–B.G.–

[Ken Thompson]

Bla bla. Here, this might actually be helpful to Roleigh

With the flatter bottom on the stainless bottle you will get even more contact on the pot supports.

[David Thomas]

Yeah, the NRS-3000T at 25 grams, is $14.32 with free shipping from gearbest and has a small flame pattern. Folds up super compact. That and a mini-Bic.

[Gary Dunckel]

Good call, David, but it's actually named BRS 3000T. These are incredible little stoves, despite the fact that the threads aren't brass. Everything else about them is fine, especially the simmer ability.

[David Thomas]

BRS-3000T

Big fingers. Small phone.

[Roger Caffin]

Hi Roleigh

> a reliable self-igniter
Yeah – an attached Bic.
The rest all fail, in my experience. After all, they are all made to a very low price, as add-on generics.

Cheers

[Dan Yeruski]

I know you asked about a canister …..view the video and let me know if you would reconsider.

[Roleigh Martin]

Ken Thompson, what is the model of the stove you showed a Nalgene bottle on top of (for demo purposes only, I know). Thanks!

[Roleigh Martin]

Good idea Greg, I have had Caldera make me a custom caldera cone in the past. I'll contact them with a link to this thread. For the intense heat of the fuel we're talking about should the cone be in Titanium or Aluminum? What are your thoughts? I've only used Caldera cones for alcohol cooking but with the fire restrictions on the JMT, they've been disallowed by some agencies in the High Sierras for last 2-3 years (they want a valve-shutoff mechanism on stoves).

[Tim Zen]

@OP — what brand is your SS bottle? Are you going to use the lid to pick it up off the stove and drop it into a cozy? Did you look at the BOT?

[Roleigh Martin]

Tim, the stainless steel bottles typically are unbranded. They're sold by the manufacturer direct to the Ebay customer. I've purchased 3 so far. They appear to all be made by the same company, some come in different tints. All have the same lid. I gave the link to one. You do a ebay search for stainless steel wide-mouth 1 liter bottle non-insulated and scroll through the list when you see what obviously looks like a Nalgene shaped bottle.

What is a BOT?

I expect to remove the lid when boiling water, I don't want the plastic to melt.

[Gary Dunckel]

Roleigh, I'm pretty sure Ken's stove ia a Snow Peak GigaPower canister stove (without a piezo). It would be a great choice for your intended purpose, because it has 4 support arms (better than the BRS-3000T, which has only 3). The GigaPower is my go-to stove–reliable, well constructed, very low CO emmisions, and it's sexy. If you are an REI member and haven't used your 20% discount coupon yet, snag one with out a piezo for cheap. I have had to remove the piezos on both of mine, as they went bung like most piezos do.

I've got to get outa here before Dan smacks me down for yet another thread drift.

Edit: I would agree with Roger–the Pocket Rocket sucks. It only has 3 support arms, and it is tall and pretty wobbly. Not very good for your tall pot/bottle.

[Ken Thompson]

It is indeed the Snow Peak Gigapower. Roleigh did you get my PM?

[Roger Caffin]

Roleigh

Snow Peak GS(T)-100
Gold Standard for upright canister stoves, at least for performance. A bit heavy these days is all.

Cheers

[Ken Thompson]

He should know by now Roger as I have mentioned that stove like three times in this thread already. I've offered him one with a piezo as a PIF.

[Roleigh Martin]

I got your PM and replied, Ken. Thanks!

Two questions, probably stupid the first one.

1. If one gets the automatic igniter, if it fails, the unit will still work with a match, right? I assume it would.

2. Does anyone recommend the windscreen they make for the unit?

[Ken Thompson]

1) Yes The ignitor is added on otherwise identical to the non ignitor version. Removable and replaceable.

2) No too heavy and not so effective.

You'll see for yourself next week.

[Jim Colten]

a reliable self-igniter
Yeah – an attached Bic.
The rest all fail, in my experience. After all, they are all made to a very low price, as add-on generics.

here is an alternative that has not failed me (yet, anyway). Version 2 seems to produce more sparks … but hasn't been around long enough for a long term track record.

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