Klymit Static V vs Static V Insulated?

I have a Static V that I used on the Highline Trail in Northern Utah. I ended up getting cold at night, although it may also have been due to my 40 degree quilt. Temperatures ended getting close to 30. The Static V definitely packs down well, but if I had it to do again I would get the insulated version. So up in the mountains I would want something warmer. If you're in a warm climate where it's staying above 50 at night, I think the Static V is a good choice. Also consider if your cold or hot natured. Hope this helps!

In August 2013, I took an UNinsulated Static V on a 7-night trip in the Sierras. Sleeping at over 11,000ft one night, I could feel a bit of cold coming through from the ground (I had a warm sleeping bag), but not enough to keep me up all night or anything. Nights below 10,000ft, the Static V was just fine.

I tried the Static V insulated and thought it was quite comfortable and wide. It really depends on where you're going to be hiking and the temperature. I camped on snow with a blanked underneath and could feel the cold coming up, but it'll be warm to around 20 degrees if you're on normal ground, I'd estimate. Considering versatility vs. weight penalty, I would definitely get the insulated version.

The only reason I returned mine is because I enjoy camping in winter with snow and the TaR Xtherm is great for that, but well over 3x the price of the Klymit.

Interested in the replies. I need something wider, and have been deliberating UNinsulated Static V vs. Wide Neo Air.

Obviously there's that big price difference. And the weight of the Insulated Static is a big deterrent.

I could just get the Static V and add some CCF. (though that doesn't address the OP's issue)

How much more comfy is a Static V compared to a NeoAir?

Katherine, I ended up purchasing a Large NeoAir XLite. Both the uninsulated Static V and NeoAir Xlite are super comfortable in my opinion. The Xlite is warmer, louder and more expensive. However, I'm coming to terms with being a cold sleeper so I may be biased.

Thanks Steve. Funds permitting that seems like rational choice for me, as a cold sleeper.

I sold my Static V and got a normal Neoair. I find it to be much more comfortable. I didn't think the Static V was that much wider and definitely not thicker. -skinny cold side sleeper. if you want wider the wider neoair is probably the way.

Oddly enough, my experience is the exact opposite of Jake's.

I have an insulated Static V and I find it much more comfortable than any neoair and also MUCH wider. The problem with the neoairs (IMO) is that they collapse quite readily on the sides, making an already narrow pad effectively even narrower.

I have a pretty strong opinion about pad widths, but suffice it to say that I don't think anybody was actually thinking about accommodating adult human sleep when they made 20 inches the standard width for pads. It was simply a byproduct of manufacturing convenience of cutting foam rolls in half. It's stupid, don't give in!

Tangent aside, I'd say go insulated all the way. Not even a question. Uninsulated pads are just a sieve for heat. I think that lots of people get cold at night because their pad is not insulated enough, regardless of whether they know it or not.

Just my two cents…

I have both. I usually sleep on the uninsulated Static and my wife sleeps on the insulated version. I've slept comfortably on the uninsulated Static into the mid 30s in a 30 degree EE quilt with a silk liner. My wife really likes the warmth of her insulated Static V.

After unpacking the Klymit's I've come to the realization that I have a sleeping pad problem. There's these 2 klymits and 2 insulated Exped Downmat 5s, and 2 uninsulated Exped 7.5s. Lawd help me.

Purchased the camo version,non insulated for my son for a just completed 4 day trip to big bend. I tried it out myself first. My thoughts are it is not comfortable enough for me, and not as well insulated as I would like sleeping with a quilt. I also purchased a Klymit pillow for him. I am 6'1" and weight around 230 and found it to be not supportable enough. I use a Exped synmat LW.. big, heavy but incredibly comfortable. I also got a Exped pillow for this trip. big but slides a bit on the pad. Wrapping it in a wool shirt fixed that.
So for the weight the klymit was nice, and the price as well.. but for me, a exped lightweight synmat would be my choice. I don't like pads that make a lot of noise.. so the thermarest is out for me. A sleeping system that works is very important to me.

this changes the equation for me back to Klymt:

http://www.klymit.com/index.php/products-1/sleeping-pads/outdoor/insulated-static-v-lite.html

Yeah, that's definitely a game changer. I haven't put my NeoAir Xlite to the test, but I may have to pick one these up in the future.

I just spent 60+ days in a row sleeping on the insulated static v. I am thoroughly convinced that there isn't a better pad for the money. I was comfortable and warm every night, though temps never got lower than 30ish.

I liked that the pad had a tendency to move "with" me; it's got some vertical and horizontal stretch to it once it's inflated so even when I tossed and turned, it stayed underneath me.

I sleep with a quilt, and will admit that on the colder nights, I could feel some small cold spots where both sides of the pad are welded together, and I imagine that could be a bigger deal if you were pushing the pad to its limits, temperature wise. If you sleep in a bag, it won't make any difference to you. I can be a cold sleeper, and expect that this pad would keep me happy into the teens before I'd want more insulation.

I like to have gear that can "do it all" as much as possible, because I can't afford to have different things for different seasons or environments necessarily, especially when it comes to high dollar items like sleeping pads and bags/quilts. So that's why I chose the insulated vs. the uninsulated version. I had slept on an uninsulated static v for a night in the Rockies, was cold on that pad at 34ish degrees.

I don't understand how it's a game-changer. An XTherm Large is the same weight, larger in every dimension, warmer, and has a 50d vs 30d bottom.

I love my Static V insulated and have used it down to below Zero C (about 26 F), on frozen ground with a foam mat underneath. (see Why I use Klymit matresses ) In essence, I found the Static V to be comfortable and it felt to be wider than my Xtherm, which I sold.

The new insulated static V (IMHO) will allow me to use the mattress all year round in winter I will supplement it with a foam mat.

In short: I really *want* a Static V, and now there's an option where the specs are good enough to warrant that choice for me. The new model is the Goldilocks option, not too cold, not too heavy.

train of logic…

going from a regular width Xlite…Needed something wider
comparing a wide Xlite w/ uninsulated V — design of the V appealed more but just too low an R value
looking at the original insulated V — too heavy compared to the wide Xlite

New, light, insulated V — still heavier, but more acceptably so (3.5 oz) — small enough difference that I'm willing to bet w/be worth a superior baffle/channel design. and I prefer the rectangular shape vs. the taper. (which i could get w/an Xtherm, but I don't need an Xtherm, and would weigh more)

For R-rating, the Xlite rating is fine for me thus far. I only want to match it. Price factors in too.

XLite wide:
R-3.2, 16 oz, 30d bottom, $180, 25" (but factor in edge collapse)

Static V Insulated Light:
R-4.4, 19 oz, 30d bottom, $100, 23" (but factor in supportive side baffle design)

(Now if I were doing winter camping, I'd totally look at the Xtherm, but I'm not)

I have the Static Insulated and in my opinion is the best pad. Its versatile enough where I can use it in my hammock and or directly on the ground if I have to. I comfortably took it down to 35 degrees. In addition the insulation prevents it from moving around in the hammock like other brands do. The best part is that I was able to get it for $59 on amazon :) http://amzn.to/1SVZXzi

Michael T is just posting amazon affiliate links. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ANRW7DI