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Women’s Exped Lightning 60 alternative?

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Derek M. BPL Member
PostedMar 19, 2015 at 2:59 pm

My wife and I are about to head out on a PCT thru hike. My wife currently has a Gregory Jade 60 which she doesn't love. The shoulder straps are a little to narrow at the neck for her, and the hipbelt pockets are too small for her liking. Additionally, and, most importantly, even when we strip the pack of its lid it still weighs 3 pounds 11 ounces.

As such we have been searching for a replacement pack. We had settled on the Exped Women's Lightning 60 since she really liked the suspension of the Lightning packs and the women's version is 1 pound 4 ounces lighter than the Jade 60 and can still haul heavy loads comfortably.

She tried the unisex version of the Lightning 60 and the shoulder straps and hipbelt were too large, hence the move to the Women's specific version, which addresses both of these issues.

Unfortunately, all of the Women's Exped Lightning 60 packs are stuck in the port of LA due to the dock worker's strikes, and nobody will have them in stock until late April (after we are already gone on our hike).

So can anyone think of any alternatives?

The pack needs the following characteristics:

-Must be able to comfortably carry 40 lbs of weight (i.e. transfer the weight to the hips)
-Must be under 3 pounds, preferably around 2.5 lbs
-Must, must, must, have a scooped out back panel (where nothing actually hits your spine mid back). My wife's spine curves out slightly under her shoulder blades and rubs painfully against any pack that has a full back panel. This is a HUGE problem in finding packs for her.
-Must have large hip belt pockets
-Must be 50-60 liters
-Preferably has an adjustable torso length

The Exped Women's Lightning 60 was the only pack on the market that I found that could meet all of these requirements.

Can anyone else think of one?

Link . BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2015 at 7:38 am

Summit Hut and Backcountry Gear show that they have them in stock, I tried putting it in my cart and it let me, but just to be sure you could try calling them to make sure they really do have it in stock, if it is really the pack she wants it might be worth a call.

Derek M. BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2015 at 1:01 pm

Link,
I've called both of those places and both are a no-go. Summit Hut has one on hand, but it is the older version of the pack that does not have the pass through slits for the water bottle pockets (a terrible, deal breaking design flaw). BackcountryGear carries the newer version which has fixed this problem, but it doesn't have any in stock. They are all being held up in port and won't arrive until late April.

Valerie E BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm

Derek,

Interesting that you called the new vs. old side pockets "a terrible, deal breaking design flaw". I noticed that the new pockets also have 2 pleats in the fabric, thereby increasing their overall usability (the old ones were like the SMD Fusion pockets with no pleats, and very tight stretch mesh).

I still feel the design needs an exterior mesh back pocket, but the latest improvements are really tempting me since I have some heavy water carries ahead of me this summer.

Good luck to you both on the PCT; may your adventures be happy ones!

Derek M. BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2015 at 1:52 pm

Valerie,
Thanks for the well wishes. We're really excited about our upcoming adventure!

And yes, I agree. A large mesh shove-it style pocket would be a welcome addition to this pack. It's the only main thing that's missing.

Also, Exped should ditch the gross-grain like webbing that they're using for the compression straps (which tends to bunch and fold over itself, jamming up in the buckles, etc.) and instead use cord with linelocs.

Other than that, the pack seems to be a winner. It can actually carry 40lbs comfortably and is well under 3 pounds. I feel like that is the gold standard for a well-designed lightweight pack.

Dave G BPL Member
PostedMar 21, 2015 at 2:54 am

Derek,

I am a happy owner of the 1st version of the Lightning 60 (coincidentally the womens version as I needed the smaller hipbelt)
The problem you describe with the side-pockets/compression straps can be worked around. Simply pass the strap that runs from the inside of the pocket over the compression strap. When secured to the roll-top clip and tensioned, this pulls the relevant part of the compression strap above the top of the pocket.

Dave

PostedMar 22, 2015 at 8:22 am

What about the Womens Lightning 45?

Do you really need a pack as big as the 60?

I personally use a mens 45 and find I can fit tons of stuff in it, enough for long desert hikes.

Or maybe you have unusually bulky gear, or carry less dense food like Mountain House or other puffy food?

Jenny A BPL Member
PostedApr 1, 2015 at 9:35 am

Have you looked at Granite Gear's packs? They offer several that might be close to what you're looking for, though I can't speak to the construction of the harness.

PostedApr 1, 2015 at 4:52 pm

I'm struggling to understand how the above weight is considered heavy, given it has a decent suspension and hipbelt.

PostedApr 2, 2015 at 7:07 am

My Exped Lightning 45 weighs just over 2 1/4 lbs and has excellent comfort and load capacity.

I have carried well over 30 lbs with all weight resting comfortably on the hips.

I can't say the same for any other 2 or even 3 lb packs I've tried.

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