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Andre Buhot BPL Member
PostedMar 9, 2015 at 3:11 pm

I read a lot about gear failures here on the forum. But when I read a little closer and more information is given it would seem to me that the gear itself has not failed catastrophicly, it has just been pushed past its intended purpose/design parameters.

In particular with rain gear I hear that jackets have failed. Which would indicate to me that the fabric is no longer waterproof, and therefore water is coming straight through the fabric itself.

Is this the case or is it just that the DWR has not been maintained and the surface of the jacket is saturated and all semblance of breathablity has been lost and people are just getting wet through sweat.

Any thoughts?

Should we continue to call these occurences failures?

PostedMar 9, 2015 at 4:43 pm

With regards to rain gear, people often report both DWR and true membrane "failures". A lot of new people think their rain gear is "failing" because they see the nylon face fabric wetting out, when this is really a normal part of rain garment wear and maintenance, but there are also a lot of membranes don't hold up either.

My Montane Minimus rain pants with Pertex Shield+ membrane failed in all senses of the term pretty quickly. The thin membrane was not longer waterproof after a few dozen uses as water would quickly soak through the knee and thigh areas and soak my pants underneath. After a few more dozen uses the membrane was badly bubbling and falling off the inside of pants. Now only about 50% of the membrane even exists.

PostedMar 9, 2015 at 5:57 pm

"Any thoughts?"

Yes, Reader Beware.

Often you can read between the lines and figure out what is going on. If that particular situation is of value, you can always ask for clarification.

But if folks don't understand how a garment should behave, they won't know the difference between wetting out and getting wet from the inside and having an outright membrane failure.

That's when you get to step up, guide a little bit, and ask (polite) pointed questions. They will learn mechanics and vocabulary, you will learn what "failed".

[My eVent jacket Failed. I could see sparkles of daylight through the fabric, and the see the water saturating my shirt.]

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