Jansport Katahdin 40 for 13-year old?

I googled it and it does not appear to have a frame. There is a youtube review where it clearly looks frameless. I'd go for something with a frame and a truly adjustable torso (i.e. like on a Exped Lighting or the REI youth packs where the shoulder harness can be moved up and down this does not have that).

After looking at the specs, for 30 oz and no frame, you could proably do better.

Thanks guys, you are right. 30 oz and no frame is not good enough.

For $29, the Outdoor Products Arrowhead might be a good place to start.

Well known el cheapo UL pack startng point amoungst non gear snobs ;)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ZbNNjY5e8

Its got dual alumnium stays and weighs about 34 ounces, but watch the video.

If you cut the lid off leaving the nice drawstring top and cut some of the other stuff off, you wind up with a 24 ounce pack with a frame.
Plus, it is already set up at about a 17" torso length

Hard to find a lighter pack with a frame for that kind of $$.
I bet he outgrows it way before he wears it out.

My local WM has sold a Lot of them over the last few years, but is now yswitching to their oen house Ozark Trails branded packs..So now it has the Arrowheads on clearnance for $20. I am picking up a few to mod myself…

That sounds like a good option. Might be a fun project for he and grandmother to work on.

Had to make a late night run to Walmart to get some medication, so went over to the spprting goods dept and get some pics and messurements of the.pack..Bottom of the hip belt to the.anchor point of the shoulder straps is 16" The shoulder straps are attached directly over the stay sleeves..

I'll try to edit and post pics here later today..

Just to be sure, I called Jansport on the Katahdin 40 to ask if it had an internal frame. The rep said uncertainly, "maybe some of the larger ones do, but it looks like this one doesn't." However, he was able to say with certainty that the hipbelt adjusts from 24-57". Still might not be a terrible option for someone with a CCF pad.

I found out that my nephew's waist is 33", so clearly my mental image of him isn't keeping up with reality.

I borrowed my xgf's Gregory G-Pack in size S, which is 2.5lb with the lid. Torso might be a bit short but at least it's a backup option.

I'll suggest my nephew get the Arrowhead mentioned above.