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AT Ridgerunner Smokies Gear List, March-May

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PostedFeb 22, 2015 at 11:36 am

I'll be on the Appalachian Trail in the smokies as a Ridgerunner from March 1st until mid-May. I won't really have an option to not hike if the weather is bad, so my gear needs to be bombproof. I'll be staying in the shelters a lot, but I need to be prepared to tent if the shelters or full or an unprepared hiker arrives late and I need to give up my spot for them. I don't have a scale so I'm going by posted weights.

Pack:
– ULA Circuit, most removable stuff off (37oz)
– 42 gallon, 3mil contractor bag (3oz est)
– Zpacks cuben pack liner (1.2oz)

41.2 oz or 2.6 lbs

Sleep System, Cold:
– Western Mountaineering Antelope 5F (2lbs 7oz)
– Neoair Xlite regular (12 oz)
– Gossamer Gear 1/8" pad (2.6oz)
– Z-lite regular (14oz)
– Goose feet Down balaclava (2oz)

69.6 oz or 4.35 lbs

Sleep system, Warm:
– 20 degree EE RevX quilt (22oz est)
– Neoair Xlite regular (12oz)
– GG 1/8" pad (2.6oz)

36.6 oz or 2.3 lbs

Clothing, cold:
– Marmot Zeus (14.4oz)
– Smartwool midweight long johns (7.6oz)
– Icebreaker 200wt long sleeve (7.5oz)
– Turtle fur beanie (2oz est)
– wool buff (1.9oz)
– REI wool glove liners (2oz est)
– REI fleece mittens (2oz est)
– MLD Rain mitts (1.3oz)
– EMS Helix Anorak (12.8oz)
– Marmot precip rain pants (8.9oz)
– Montbell fleece pants (10oz est)
– EMS polartech fleece top (10oz est)
– Smartwool hiking socks (3oz)
– microspikes (13oz)

96.4 oz or 6 lbs

Clothing, warm:
– Montbell UL Down jacket (7oz)
– Smartwool midweight long johns (7.6oz)
– Icebreaker 200wt long sleeve (7.5oz)
– Turtle fur beanie (2oz est)
– wool buff (1.9oz)
– REI wool glove liners (2oz est)
– MLD Rain mitts (1.3oz)
– Frogg Toggs top/bottom rain gear (9oz)
– Patagonia Houdini (4.5oz)

42.8 oz or 2.6 lbs

Shelter:
– MLD Duomid (12.5oz)
– Seek outside carbon pole (5.3oz)
– 4 Lawson ti stakes (1oz)
– 4 MSR groundhogs (2oz)
– Borah gear argon bivy (6.2oz)

27 oz or 1.7 lbs

Cooking/Food/Water:
– Bushbuddy ultra (5.5oz)
– Esbit backup tabs (2oz)
– 20L sea to summit ultrasil food bag (1.8oz)
– 50' 550 paracord (2.8oz)
– Sawyer mini(2oz)
– Smartwater bottle 1L (1.3oz)
– Platypus 1L bag (0.8oz)
– Carabiner (0.2oz)
– two mini Bic lighters (0.8oz)
– Trek 900 pot, Fourgoat lid (4.4oz)
– LMF ti spork (0.5oz)

22.1 oz or 1.3 lbs

So winter weight (when lows are expected to be below 30F at lower elevations, so 0F to 20F at higher elevations) is:

256.3 oz or 16.01 lbs base weight

Warmer weather weight when lows are going to be in the 30F to 40F area at lower elevations:

169.7 oz or 10.6 lbs base weight

Not sure where to spend money to cut weight next. I'll be out 5 days at a time so probably carrying 10 lbs of food, very little water. 27lbs total for winter and 21 for warmer weather isn't bad but I'd like to do better. One thing I know I need is a windscreen, right now I use a heavy one designed for an MSR Whisperlite so I'm going to be MYOGing one soon, hopefully under 1oz. Any comments about this in general? I'm extra worried about staying dry as that's a common issue in the smokies. I'll be wearing:

Asolo Fugitive GTX
OR Crocodile gaiters
NF nylon pants
Columbia ridgerunner shirt
Ridgerunner hat
Smartwool socks

Dan Yeruski BPL Member
PostedFeb 22, 2015 at 6:10 pm

I’m going to send you some additional items to choose from:-)

They’ll be in the mail tomorrow with your Mini Esbitmizer.

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PostedFeb 23, 2015 at 11:17 am

Windscreen: I've always used folded alumninum foil. There's ways you can fold it so that it's more durable and solid. I also use a foil disk underneath to help aim that heat up. I know heat's supposed to rise, but that ground

Stove – I'm not sure if it violates a safety code, but if it were me up there, I'd have a large Tin of denatured alcohol hidden at one of the shelters to top off a smaller bottle on me.

You probably won't need the paracord if you're using the steel cables. They can hold quite a bit of weight, so multiple people can use the same one.

Do you have down booties for wearing around the shelter? (Cold weather) Crocs for warmer weather. Very useful for letting your feet breathe/avoiding blisters.

Do you have a kindel… : )

Russ W BPL Member
PostedFeb 23, 2015 at 3:41 pm

Andrew,

I'll come at this from the recent experience of 9 days in GSNP in October, in which it rained for the better part of 7.5 days. The second experience was a 4 day trip in late January, with rain, sleet, freezing rain, snow….and then just brrrrr. My list was similar…with a few short-comings. I see you have event rain mitts and fleece mitts…excellent! I'm still thawing my fingers out. Have you considered gaiters? I thought my feet were more dry as a result, and certainly the snow didn’t come over the tops of my boots.

Since you are a ridge-runner, can you opt out of staying in the shelters? Regular folks are not given that option on the AT. If you can, then great and your tent/bivy combo looks like a winner. In fact, I just ordered a Borah bivy to use with my tarp in similar conditions and thinking it would be good bag protection in the shelters as well.

If I were you, I would find the name and contact information of the ridge-runner that held your position in October, 2014, and ask him some questions (sorry I can’t remember his name, I want to say Fletcher). He could give you some excellent advice. All of the shelters I came across had some sort of locked metal storage device for Rangers and trail crews…and the Ridge Runner I met had access to it for storage, i.e., alcohol, food, etc., all locked up and protected. Either that or talk to the rangers…they're a great bunch and I bet they can give you can give you access.

Lastly, during the 7.5 days of rain in October, I had a Go Lite Chrome Dome umbrella, as a kind of an experiment, using and elastic loop lashed to my shoulder strap. Walking the ridges in 50-60 mph winds and cold rain, it was an absolute life-saver to bend the umbrella across my face, or in general just to keep the rain off, or tuck it in rhododendrons and cook dinner under it. I honestly expected poor results but now I’m a full on umbrella believer!

Good luck…maybe we'll cross paths!

PostedFeb 23, 2015 at 4:48 pm

While I usually wouldn't say its necessary for a hiker, a ridge runner in the smokies might actually want to consider bear mace…

Explanation: last year "the herd" of newbie thru hikers left quite a mess. One of the primitive sites was completely closed down because the bears had 'moved in" next to the trash. I also heard reports of bears approaching the shelters because Thru hikers were sleeping with their food.

You may wish to stay clear of this, but if it were me, I might consider bear mace in case some 'genius" next to me decided to sleep with pizza under his pillow without warning the rest of the shelter.

Russ W BPL Member
PostedFeb 23, 2015 at 4:58 pm

Sad to say but I agree with you.

Also, maybe you maybe you don't want to get in the weeds,but I don't see any list for first aid, personals/toiletries, lighting, maps.

PostedFeb 26, 2015 at 12:08 pm

Are you expecting snow? Neoprene socks work pretty well or just plastic bags. Definitely take some kind of traction like microspikes if there's significant chance of ice though.

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