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    Daryl and Daryl
    BPL Member

    @lyrad1

    Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

    Last week I was hiking in Olympic National Park.  An official looking  sign at the beach trailhead said to treat water by boiling or filtering because chemical treatment would not kill the giardia and crypto that is in the water.

    I tried to find a similar statement on the Olympic National Park website without luck.

    I don’t recall seeing such a straight forward advisory about chemical treatment before.  Has anyone seen similar warnings elsewhere?

    #3433204
    Bruce Tolley
    BPL Member

    @btolley

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    For Crypto, from the CDC web site
    <p class=”p1″><span class=”s1″>Methods that may remove some or all of Cryptosporidium from drinking water are:</span></p>

    <ul class=”ul1″>
    <li class=”li1″><span class=”s1″>Boiling (Rolling boil for 1 minute) has a very high effectiveness in killing Cryptosporidium;</span>
    <li class=”li1″><span class=”s1″>Filtration has a high effectiveness in removing Cryptosporidium when using an absolute less than or equal to 1 micron filter (NSF Standard 53 or 58 rated “cyst reduction / removal” filter);</span>
    <li class=”li1″><span class=”s1″>Disinfection with iodine or chlorine is not effective in killing Cryptosporidium;</span>
    <li class=”li1″><span class=”s1″>Disinfection with chlorine dioxide has a low to moderate effectiveness in killing Cryptosporidium;</span>
    <li class=”li1″><span class=”s1″>Combination filtration and disinfection has a very high effectiveness in removing and killing Cryptosporidium when used with chlorine dioxide and an absolute less than or equal to 1 micron filter (NSF Standard 53 or 58 rated “cyst reduction / removal” filter).</span>

    http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/travel/backcountry_water_treatment.html

    #3433206
    Bob K
    BPL Member

    @seventy2002

    I tried to find a similar statement on the Olympic National Park website without luck.

    The warnings are there. For example, the Ozette Loop page says, “Cryptosporidium and giardia exist in coastal streams and rivers; therefore, always filter or boil water. Iodine is ineffective against cryptosporidium.”

    #3433270
    Daryl and Daryl
    BPL Member

    @lyrad1

    Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth

    Bruce & Bob,

    Thanks for the confirmation.

    Started to think I imagined it.

    #3434006
    Nick Smolinske
    BPL Member

    @smo

    Locale: Rogue Panda Designs

    Yep, although it’s important to note that not all chemical treatments are created equal.  Iodine and free chlorine are not always effective against giardia and crypto.  Chlorine dioxide *is* effective, although it might require a long contact time and a filter might be preferable.

    #3434007
    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Well, no water treatment is absolute. Even boiling has the potential (statistical probability) that something will penetrate your natural defenses.  ALWAYS! High pressures, and longer cycling times are needed to create completely sterile items. Or, High Radiation (not particulate) will also create sterile water. .

    A lot depends on your water supply. What you start with will certainly determine the outcome.  The signs are accurate but in many cases are a bit overdone. You are generally subject to all sorts of potential pathogens. Don’t worry about it. If you get sick, most diseases have cures, today. And, they will take a while to manifest…often a week or two, some much longer.  The biggest problem with most treatments today is freshness and concentration. But, even a single egg from a trichinosis worm can infect you. And, these are generally very resistant to chemical treatment. Boiling is the safest, but we find many organisms that live in boiling water,  again, not really sterile.  You would really worry if you studied microbiology. But, for the most part, they work well enough to kill most organisms to let our natural defenses (built up through evolution) work. It is not something I worry about when I am out.

    Just take the best precautions you can. Boil water, treat with chemicals, filter stuff with a fine absolute filter, and/or radiate (UV) your water. It still won’t be sterile, but statistics say one in a million will get sick. I will live with those odds.

    Read Cafins water treatment  series. It is old, but NOT obsolete.

     

     

    #3434018
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there
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