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    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    I agree.

    My favorite pot is an aluminum 5.5″ diameter with bail. ( vintage boy scout)

    My favorite fuel is wood/twigs

    #3513962
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    yes, but

    maybe a Ti pot will take 3 times longer for the inside of the pot to heat up compared to an aluminum pot

    but if it takes, for example, 6 seconds for the inside of a Ti pot to heat up, and an aluminum 2 seconds, it doesn’t matter because you run it for 3 minutes to boil your water

    #3513974
    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Yes, but it also applies to side to side conductivity where you can think of a heated molecule/unheated molecule as the surface boundary. This also means the heat will dissipate quicker to the inside from a larger area maintaining the heat differential to absorb more heat. (Not quite true but a useful model.)

    #3513988
    Ben H.
    BPL Member

    @bzhayes

    Locale: No. Alabama

    If you want to make an electrical resistance analogy, thermal resistance is not 1/k (k=thermal conductivity).  Thermal resistance is L/(k*A), L is the thickness you are conducting through (in the direction of heat flow) and A is the area you are conducting across (perpendicular to heat flow).  Just like the resistance of a wire is not 1/(electrical conductivity).  The thickness of the pot does matter.

    #3514051
    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Yes, to be exact. I was just making a point. Most people get a little cross eyed with a lot of numbers and/or variables.

    #3514108
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    approximately:

    2 cups of water is 470 grams

    it takes 4.186 Joules to raise 1 gram of water 1 degree C

    196742 J to boil 2 cups of water (raise 100 degree C)

    the area of my pot is about 12 cm x 12 cm = 0.0144 m2

    180 seconds to boil on my canister stove (the only sensible way to boil water : )

    75903 W/m2 – watts per meter squared power going through my pot while it’s boiling, a watt is a joule-second

    204 W/mK is the conductance of aluminum

    0.001 m is the thickness of an aluminum pot

    temperature difference across the pot while it’s running is the W/m2 / conductance * thickness, analogous to voltage drop across a resistor with a current through it = 0.37 degree C (or K)

    titanium is thinner but less conductance so the temperature drop through it is about 3 x, so about 1 degree C

    Since the temperature of the outer surface where the flame is, is maybe 2000 degree C, a 1 degree C, or 0.37 degree C difference is insignificant

    It doesn’t make any significant difference whether you use a Titanium or Aluminum pot

    I probably divided where I should have mulitplied somewhere, maybe this is theoretically all wrong, regardless, I don’t think it matters whether you have Aluminum or Titanium pot as far as efficiency goes : )

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