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Out oceans: The LARGEST canary in the global warming "coal mine"


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    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    I fear (strongly) that once the world’s oceans reach a certain average surface temperature we will reach a true climate change “TIPPING POINT” from which there will be no man-made retreat.

    Add to that ocean acidification, which also may mean drastic reduction of photo and zoo plankton. And that of course, being the foundation of the oceanic food chain, will spell mass species extinction.

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    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    Sorry, the SUBJECT heading should read “OUR Oceans…”, not “Out Oceans…” Senior moment for not checking.

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    Gary Dunckel
    BPL Member

    @zia-grill-guy

    Locale: Boulder

    No worries, Eric. I most always leave my oceans out. They usually create a big mess in the house, and they like being out anyway. But you are right – warming oceans will certainly create devastating problems planet wide.

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    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    I’m not sure which will be the biggest tipping point – ocean water temperatures, crashing the base of the aquatic eco-system with ocean acidification, liberating methane hydrates, allowed the tundra to thaw and decay, or what.  Changing human behavior isn’t going to avoid huge consequences – we’ve done enough already that it’s definitely going to happen, but changing behavior rapidly will reduce how big those changes are.

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    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    I agree with David.

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    Tom K
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    @tom-kirchneraol-com-2

    I posted this in a previous, more general thread, but since we’re focused on oceans here:

    https://www.ocean.washington.edu/story/Warmer_Pacific_ocean

    The oceans contain a huge amount of methane hydrates at depths where the temperatures are low enough to keep the crystals stable.  That is changing, which expands the methane problem far beyond the permafrost areas of the north.  It looks like we’re on the verge of creating another feedback loop that, once started, will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to reverse;  with disastrous effects on the atmosphere.  Particularly true given the people who control the levers of power.

    To give us an idea of the scope of the problem:

    https://geology.com/articles/methane-hydrates/

    The Chinese and Japanese are already hard at work on technology to “mine” it as a nearly inexhaustable source of natural gas, a clear indication of the extent of the material, and the threat it poses if ocean temperatures continue to rise.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/energy-dense-methane-hydrate-extracted-by-japanese-chinese-researchers/

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