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    Derrick White
    BPL Member

    @miku

    Locale: Labrador

    <span data-caps=”initial”>A</span><small>few years</small> ago Kripa Varanasi, a researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, made the news with a ketchup bottle that could be emptied without leaving any of the ketchup behind. Instead of sticking to the bottle’s interior, the sauce was repelled by it.

    Superhydrophobicity, as physicists call this effect, involves peppering a surface with microscopic structures that contain pockets of fluid. That reduces the area of contact between the surface and any water droplets which fall on it. This, in turn, diminishes the surface tension that would otherwise cause the droplet to cling on, so it instead falls off. In nature, using air as the fluid, lotus leaves and insect cuticles are both famously good at superhydrophobicity. In lotuses the air pockets are created by minute lumps of wax. In insects they are the result of tiny hairs. Dr Varanasi’s ketchup bottle improved even on these paragons, by replacing the air with an oil.

    His latest surface, though, which is even more hydrophobic than the previous ones, goes back to tinkering not with the pockets’ contents, but with the surface’s geometry. As he and his colleagues Henri-Louis Girard and Dan Soto report in <i>acs Nano</i>, the trick is to carve minuscule structures they call “water bowls” on a surface.

    The trio began their research by looking at how the contact area between a surface and a droplet falling onto it influences how effectively that droplet will bounce away again. If it falls on even a standard superhydrophobic surface, a droplet will spread out. That reduces its “bounceability”. To limit this spread, the researchers used a laser to etch into an already superhydrophobic surface a series of patterns of small rings. These are the water bowls in question. Their purpose is to constrain the spread of droplets falling on them, thus encouraging the rapid ejection of those droplets back into the air (see picture).

    To test the idea’s effectiveness, the trio needed a way of measuring the strength of the contact between falling water drops and their new surface. Their solution was to use the heat transferred from surface to water while they were in contact as a proxy for contact strength. They therefore showered the surface, while it was at room temperature (20°C), with water chilled to 3ºC. While doing so they monitored the resulting drop in the surface’s temperature. This proved to be 40% less than that experienced over the same period by a standard superhydrophobic surface which they used as a control.

    The reduced transfer of heat from surface to droplets showed that the water bowls greatly reduced interaction between the two. In other words, the surface’s hydrophobicity had been increased. Moreover, further tests showed that even if a droplet landed on the edge of a water bowl, rather than dead centre, it was still repelled more effectively than by a flat surface.
    <p class=”end has-stop”>Dr Varanasi and his colleagues believe that, using lasers and other modern manufacturing techniques, it should be possible to carve water bowls into a wide variety of surfaces. Potential applications range from preventing the icing of aircraft wings by freezing rain to reducing the corrosive effects of brine from ocean spray—and even helping people stay snug and dry inside waterproof clothing.</p>

    #3600833
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there

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    #3600840
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    When’s the fabric going to be available? : )

    i’ve always wanted to make a lotus leaf tent

    #3600911
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    It only works on ketchup bottles.
    (It can’t work on fabrics.)

    Cheers

    #3600917
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    In 2013 Rust-Oleum launched Neverwet using the same idea and with similar claims.

    Six years later…. I’m still waiting to see clothing treated with it that does work in real world use .

    ( I would think abrasion will be a major problem)

    To add…

    I see that it is a continuation of the Neverwet project.

    here is some blurb from when Neverwet was launched

    https://www.fastcompany.com/3022039/is-this-the-most-waterproof-material-ever-created

     

    #3601011
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    This sort of thing can work moderately well on a smooth hard surface without abrasion. Like maybe the inside of a ketchup bottle :)
    But you can forget it completely for any of our needs.

    Actually, apart from ketchup bottles, I struggle to think of an affordable commercial use for it.

    Cheers

    #3601092
    Sam Farrington
    BPL Member

    @scfhome

    Locale: Chocorua NH, USA

    Even if a super DWR (durable water repellent) treatment could be developed, doubt that it would prevent condensation in a thin single wall WPB tent (way thinner than the 1.9 oz/sq/yd Epic formerly used by Black Diamond tents).  For raingear, I’ve found that very thin walled jackets also allow ‘virtual drenching’  due to condensation and heat loss, even when no water comes through. It feels like you are soaking wet, moreso to the degree that the air and water is cold and wind driven.  Happened on Mt Washington during a rain & hail storm in late summer.  Peeled off the thin Epic pull-over and put on an REI GTX one from the daypack, and got over a mile back to the summit parking lot with almost zero visibility.  Probably would have got hypothermia without the GTX.

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