Netting skirt for xmid fly

[Scott Roach]

I’m looking for creative ways to attach a netting skirt to the bottom of my xmid 2p fly similar to the net skirt found on the six moons Owyhee so I can leave the inner tent at home.  I’ve used a megamid in peak bug season by piling rocks around the perimeter with success back in the olden days when fabrics were burlier, so I know going without a net inner is a viable option for me. Ideally it could be easily removed for winter use. I am also planning on having 1 wall with netting so I can leave the door open on warm nights. I think adding velcro to attach the netting would add a little too much weight so I’m looking for creative alternative ways (climbing  skin glue for example). Discuss!

[Barry Cuthbert]

Could use strategically placed press studs/domes around the perimeter to join the skirt to the fly

[SIMULACRA]

Using grosgrain and or flat braided elastic band on the netting edge to give strength and tautness. Then add clips to the nets 4 corners. Stretch and attach to fly corner attachments. Nettings hang down length would be your personal preference. I’d assume something that drapes inward a ways.

[Scott Roach]

Thanks for the ideas. I’m intrigued with the snaps(studs/dome) idea although hesitant to pierce the fabric. There won’t be much tension on the netting I don’t think. My only concern is the possibility of gaps at the junction with the fabric if it’s not fully attached all the way across.

[Joe Hollowed]

Hey Scott, did you ever end up trying this? I have an old XMid2 from 2019 that’s been collecting dust… rather than spending money on a new 2P shelter for a prospective JMT hike, it occurred to me that adding a mesh skirt to the XMid2 fly would essentially turn it into a TarpTent Preamble, in both weight and livability. Assuming the sum of the netting could be had for a few ounces. The idea of using spaced out Kam snaps is good, as mentioned above. But the inside of an XMid fly is PU coated, meaning it can be taped. So one could instead stick DCF-tape-mounted webbing loops to the inside (like the kind used for tarp tieouts) for a removable solution. Or just sew the netting to strips of DCF tape and apply them along the inside tarp edge.

I’m not quite sure what to do about the door opening though.

[Monte Masterson]

Velcro and noseeum don’t mix. Just touching the two together will bring major runs to the netting. And of course there’s the weight of Velcro. Kam snaps will absolutely do the trick for a removable skirt. They’re cheap and easy to apply….weigh virtually nothing. You’ll find many other handy uses for Kam snaps. Just place them about 6″ apart on a perimeter netting skirt. I’d go with .9 noseeum and fold a 1/2″ hem in which to install the snaps for durability (use an iron on lowest setting to keep fold). The .9 (vs .67) noseeum will add very little weight and will be much less prone to snags on the ground. However, the .67 will work though.

https://dutchwaregear.com/product/kam-snap-pliers/

https://dutchwaregear.com/product/kam-snaps/

[todd]

+1 for Kamsnaps.  Yes, you’ll have gaps, but aside from sewing on the netting, all good solutions will have gaps (I agree with Monty that velcro sucks with most netting)

Light, durable, and you’ll surely find other cool uses for them.

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