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Fleece: "the biggest environmental problem you've never heard of"


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    Matt Dirksen
    BPL Member

    @namelessway

    Locale: Mid Atlantic

    So it looks like measurable quantities of fleece (microfiber plastics) are ending up in our oceans.

    For those of us that depend on a city sewer system, it appears our washing machine is a big part of the problem. I.E. a city the size of Seattle, it turns out to average around 100,000 ocean bound plastic bags PER DAY.

    Perhaps this issue is important for one to contemplate when choosing between fleece and something else – recycled or otherwise. Or just plan to hand wash it or limit it’s washing machine exposure.

    And clearly this issue is a LOT bigger than Patagonia, and I am grateful they are willing and able to study this.

    http://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-fashion/patagonia-admits-theres-problem-synthetic-clothes.html

    Here is a direct link to the study:

    http://brenmicroplastics.weebly.com/project-findings.html

    #3436710
    Bob K
    BPL Member

    @seventy2002

    Or just plan to hand wash it or limit it’s washing machine exposure.

    Or install the filters sold to septic tank owners to address this problem.

    #3436722
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    They need to design plastic so it degrades

    If animals eat it, it would just be food

    Or at least bacteria would eat it so it doesn’t accumulate in the environment and over years gradually become a huge problem

    #3436725
    Matt Dirksen
    BPL Member

    @namelessway

    Locale: Mid Atlantic

    On that note, scientists did recently discover a plastic bottle eating bacteria not long ago. I guess the microfiber plastic could be a great appetizer:

    http://phys.org/news/2016-03-newly-bacteria-plastic-bottles.html

    #3436729
    Gunnar H
    BPL Member

    @qy

    It seems filters available today will not solve it. You can catch the microfibers with some filters but it will catch all other dirt etc as well and be unworkable. And what to do with what you collected from the filter to make sure its not reaching the environment anyway? (Read the Guardian link in the treehugger link.)

    Handwash and minimize use is probably what you can do for now.

    Things like the link below I don’t believe in at all, except as a way to make you feel better when you continue as before – and that has seldom been any good for the environment:

    Most days you can simply go home and dry your things and then you probably don’t need fleece. Its really only when your out in wet cold conditions for days the alternatives really doesn’t work as well.

    #3436736
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    don’t wash your fleece?

    #3436739
    [ Drew ]
    BPL Member

    @43ten

    Locale: Central Valley CA

    “don’t wash your fleece?”

     

    This is the most practicable solution.  Eventually the garment will reach a sort of stench plateau at which point maintenance drops to near zero – a veritable win for the ULBPacker and our Oceans.

    #3436744
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    at least other humans will leave you alone?

    and bugs won’t even know you’re there?

    #3436784
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    I find I get a lot less lint in the dryer after washing in a front loader than in a top-loader.  So I suspect the gentler handling results in fewer fibers in the wastewater as well.

    #3436842
    ben .
    BPL Member

    @frozenintime

    thank you for sharing this. i had no idea.

    #3436869
    James holden
    BPL Member

    @bearbreeder-2

    note also that fleece basically lasts forever (more or less)

    so you can easily wear it (with a few repairs) for a decade or two daily …. rather than constantly throwing things out

    unlike synth which you throw out after a few years of daily use … or those UL down jackets whoses 7-15D shells come apart few years of constant daily use …

    i think everyone in a cold wet climate has decade old well worn fleeces that do the job just fine…

    ;)

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