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Age Old Question: Best Cup of Coffee on the Trail?


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    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Bruce, that is exactly the point. Wherever you have conditions for decomposition, bury or scatter them. If you don’t have the proper conditions, carry them.

    Finding old single cup packaging, that is definitely NOT LNT. Tea bags are about the same. I find at least 40 per year. I have to split them, scatter the old tea and burn the paper. I wish the hikers would make real tea and skip the paper packaging.

    #3580906
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Tea bags: point well made. We do carry those out in our rubbish.

    Cheers

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    JCH
    BPL Member

    @pastyj-2-2

    Interesting thread drift.

    #3581113
    Scott Jennings
    Spectator

    @sjennings

    If I could contribute to the tread drift and follow up on Bruce Tolley’s comment, in terms of ecological impacts, the question is not simply whether materials will get used by the system and how quickly, but rather is more about how inputs of different chemicals might change the ecology of a system.

    Many of the unique places we like to go backpacking have interesting and specialized plant and animal communities that have evolved under particular soil chemistry conditions. These unique soil chemistries are often manifest in deficiencies of certain elements, several of which coffee grinds may contain (particularly nitrogen). As just one example, adding nitrogen to a system can change the carbon to nitrogen ratio of the soil, which in turn can change the competitive interactions between different plant species. In central CA coastal prairie systems, non-native invasive species outcompete natives where the N:C ratio is higher. According to this recent paper (https://www.mdpi.com/2571-8789/2/3/41), soils in mid-elevation, west slope Sierra Nevada have only between 19-24 g of carbon per kg of soil ( ~0.2% by weight). According to a couple internet searched sources, used coffee grinds are about 2% nitrogen by volume. I’m not sure about the biological availability of that nitrogen (my recollection of the N cycle is fuzzy), but it seems reasonable to assume (particularly if we ascribe to the precautionary principle) that it may not take much grinds to change soil chemistry to a degree that might change ecological processes, at least at small spatial scales.

    Back when I was making fresh coffee and didn’t pack grinds out, I would broadcast them widely to avoid leaving a concentrated slug of nutrients/chemicals in a single location. However, the fact that coffee grinds are a popular and effective addition to garden-bound compost bins ought to give one pause about dispersing them in the unique, nutrient-limited systems that we get so much enjoyment from visiting.

    Oh yeah, +1 on Mount Hagen for nice flavor, decent price and avoiding single serve packaging.

     

    #3581118
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    As long as this thread is drifting lazily along multiple streams of consciousness:

    Extra nitrogen from automobile exhaust contributes to non-native plants thriving, and the local extinction of a rare butterfly, at a park next to a busy SF Bay Area freeway:

    http://friendsofedgewood.org/learn-about-edgewood-park/bay-checkerspot-butterfly

    So walk or bicycle to and from trailheads, taking tea leaves and coffee grounds with you.

    — Rex

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    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    I go with “Best for the weight” coffee. So far that has been Starbucks VIA. But I also carry a few Taster’s Choice singlet packs to change up the taste. And powdered creamer is a must.

    Then on the rare mornings when I have extra time I add some instant hot chocolate powder for a “mocha” coffee.

    D@mned if I’ll carry the extra weight of a French press. That’s reserved for car and canoe camping. Maybe a can of Reddi Whip, but no French press. ;o)

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