custom Lite Trail cook Kit

[Gregory Stein]

Yeah, Dan, that ridge gives you many possibilities! It opens a whole new world of windscreen/supports for literally any pot (as long as you can make one).

There should be a benefit of covering the whole pot by the cone. It should be more efficient as heat is also trapped on the side of pot. However obviously this comes at a weight penalty.

I’m looking forward to see more of your inventions. I truly believe you have a great potential here. Keep up making amazing cook kits!

[Stormin]

Nice idea, but ruining a ti pan to make a custom fit for a windshield is illogical. Will not be able to use in a split or full height cone for  other cooking options. Not really suitable for cold and exposed situations,because the exposed majority of the pan will cool very quickly,and take longer to boil.It might be ok for warmer less exposed cooking/boiling, but not my idea of a good setup.

 

[Mole J]

I don’t think it’s ruining it, especially if used for just water boiling?

And it doesn’t really preclude using a full cone at all as at the ridge height, that part of the cone is away from the pan?

Agree  about exposed sides, but many folk seem to happily use low-rise windshield systems like that – especially gas ones?

I would like to know ambient conditions for a 3 cup boil on one tab though!

[Stormin]

Ok Mole,how would you manage to get the pot in or out of a full height cone? The ridgeline prevents the pan from doing so.We are not talking gas here,its esbit or alcohol, the ridgeline precludes it from a full height cone for that reason.

 

[DAN-Y]

The entire pot of cold water is a “heat sink” The windscreen/pot support is tight against the pot approx. 1″

The pot sucks up the heat to such a great extent that I can wrap my fingers around the  base of the windscreen while the water heats.

At this point I can only say for a surety that 1 standard esbit cube boils 3 cups of 55 degree tap water at an air temp of 50 degrees.

When I return from vacation I will make a pot support for a k-Mart grease pot and see if 1 esbit will boil 4 cups. The grease pot is aluminum compared to Ti for the Toaks 900

[DAN-Y]

A full size cone will have a cut-out for the handles. The cut-out will allow the cone to expand and slide over the ridge. We know that for a surety, been there, done that ;)

[Stormin]

If you know this will work then ok,what if you use a handleless ridgeline pot in the cone,will it expand then?

[Mole J]

I see your point Norman, but agree with what Dan said about the handle gap.  My cones certainly open somewhat if not careful.  I guess your new design may be fixed more solidly ?

Obviously if a handleless set up is used with a fully enclosed top on the cone, there is no leeway for the ridge to drop through.

 

[Bob Moulder]

I would like to know ambient conditions for a 3 cup boil on one tab though!

This from The Definitive Esbit Thread. :^)

These wider pots are really perfect for Esbit.

[DAN-Y]

Norman, watch the video. It will show you how to place the ridged pot into a cone. The pot in the video has a flat bottom, same diameter as the ridge.  If the ridge was not there, the cone would be able to go all the way up to the lip of the pot to be supported.

[Mole J]

Thanks Bob

I remember your efficient setup.

I’ve found that a “perch on top” pot support like that is not really suitable for the sort of terrain I often camp on. The ground of UK uplands is often lumpy, bumpy, sloping and Grassy.  I’ve tried various ‘balancing on top’ potstands and have  usually come to grief at some point.  Just like using a cart top gas stove  on rough ground – babysitting is needed. A cone type support is stable and much more tolerant of sloping/uneven ground.

I’ll go for the easy life!

 

 

 

 

[DAN-Y]

Got an email asking basically, why is this system better or is it as good as the TD system that goes all the way up to the top lip of the pot? Why does it work so well? What are your opinions?

 

[Matthew / BPL]

It’s light as heck and super compact. With a spoon, lighter, my Esbit stove (not the BGE) I’m right at 4 ounces.

I suspect a cone that goes further up might be more efficient but I can boil 1.5 cups of water with two 4 gram tablets at 11,000′ in a breeze. I’m not sure I need it any better than that. I usually use one and one half tablets and probably could have in the Sierra but I was unsure of how the altitude would effect it.

I was already sold on the Toaks 550 setup before you made this. I see your kit at the ultimate expression of a cookset built around that pot.

I won’t lie, I’m curious if I’d like an Evernew 600 Sidewinder Ti Tri as much or more but I haven’t invested the $LOL to try it out and it’s heavier IIRC.

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