Dec 15, 2004 at 5:05 pm #1215689
@ryanLocale: Northern Rockies
Just curious what y’all are carrying for clothing and sleep systems, and what kinds of winter environments you are dealing with for those systems. Please spec the # of days you are out with the intended list as well. Most interested in how/if you integrate soft shells into your system, seeing down vs. synthetic insulations, and bivy sack/tarp/tent use.
I had a recent overnighter on a ridge exposed to 20 mph winds but built up a snow wall around to shield my bivy site some. Snowing, low temps to 6-8 degrees F, high temps while on the ridge 16-18 deg F, humidity about 85%, elevation 9500, above the treeline. Here’s what I took:
– ID South Col eVENT Bivy – 19 oz
– Nunatak Expedition Arc Alpinist (microlight shell, 0.85 lining, 3″ loft) – 21 oz
– Zotte Foams 5mm x 20″ x 60″ pad (with pack under knees and feet) – 5 oz
– TorsoLite pad – 10 oz
– Rab Vapor Trail Smock (worn all the time) – 14 oz
– Integral Designs eVENT Jacket (worn on ridge traverse) – 10 oz
– Rab Quantum Endurance Parka (worn at rests/in camp/sleeping, during the day on long level sections or downhills where I wasn’t creating too much heat, and late in the day as the sun went down while still hiking along the ridge) – 22 oz
Clothing on Legs:
– Arc’Teryx Gamma MX Pants (worn all the time) – 19 oz
– Cocoon pants prototype (stay tuned, going to production in 3 wks!) (worn in camp/sleeping) – 9 oz
– Mt Hardwear Hammer Gloves – 6 oz
– (prototype) Featherlite Vapor Mitts – 4 oz (available at BPL in < 1 wk)
– OR WindPro Balaclava – 2 oz
– smartwool liner socks – 2 oz
– RBH Designs Vapor Barrier Socks – 3 oz
– Intuition Liners / Dynafit MLT4 Boots – 4 lb 12 oz
Conclusions: was a little nippy in the torso and legs unless I was moving pretty quick OR was wearing the down parka while moving, which was actually pretty nice – remember – while on the ridge we had steady winds of 15-25 mph so it was really cold up there. I even added the mitts here and there during the day quite a bit.
What I’d change: maybe add a fleece vest and some very light wind pants for that touch of extra warmth in the wind.Apr 9, 2005 at 9:40 pm #1336622
Steven Scates MDBPL Member
I am writing in advance of my trip to the Sierras this next weekend and will update you with my results when I return.
I am trying hard to move to ultralight backpacking and am glad to see a recent gear list for the winter.
In some of your articles, you use a synthetic bag for winter, in others a down bag. One problem I am having with my synthetic bag (20 deg primaloft) is physically getting it into a light pack. If I compress it, it is too bulky and hard to fit into my Golite Infinity. It physically won’t get in. For this reason alone, I am ordering an Arc bag.
Have you moved to synthetics for the snow of early spring/winter as noted in one of your articles or have you come back to down again? The volume of the bag seems to be the limit as to what pack I bring, so it seems a choice between a heavier, roomier pack or a down bag with its winter condensation issues.
Thanks for your help and I will let you know what happens.
steveApr 15, 2005 at 12:14 pm #1336725
In the “blizzard of 05” as the news said… not a blizzard, but you know how accurate the TV news is *rolls eyes*
(weights are rounded to nearest .25lbs)
Pack – MountainSmith Ghost – 3lbs
Shelter – Bibler Hooped Bivy – 1.5lbs
Sleeping Bag – MontBell #4 – 2.5lbs
Full Length Sleeping Pad – Full length Blue Foam pad (cut to fit) – approx .5lbs
Torso Pad – POE Uber Micro – .25lbs
Hat – Montbell UL Field Cap – 1oz
Cold Hat – Combined Balaclava/watch cap – .25lbs
Uninsul. Cagoule – Homemade design – .75oz
Insul. Jacket – Montbell Thermawrap – .5lbs
Shirt – UnderArmour ColdGear – .75lbs
Kilt – SportKilt – 1lbs
Insulated “chaps” – Homemade design – .75lbs
Shell gloves – Marmot Trigger Finger Gore Tex – .5lbs
Insulated Gloves – Marmot “trigger finger” Primaloft – .25lbs
Liner Gloves – Marmot Evolution
N2S Gloves – 2oz
Socks – Smartwool 2 pairs – .5lbs
Booties – Integral Designs – .25lbs
Shoes – Merrell Chameleon XCR – 2.5lbs
Gaiters – Homemade Spandura – .25lbs
Cook set + Homemade Stove – .5lbs
It was very snowy, but did not get extremely cold. I was able to keep warm while moving but cooled off when I stopped. However I was able to set up camp in a protected area, snuggled into my bag, and cooked dinner (not bear safe – but no known bears in the area). By bed time I was quite warm and comfortable. I woke cold around 0400, but since I usually get up around 0500, it was no big deal. Boiled water for tea and oatmeal, and was warm by 0430 and on the trail a little earlier than normal.
If I had the $, Id also include a Montbell “UL Sleeping Bag” which would up the weight about 1.25lbs, but I feel I would have stayed warm for at least the additional hour Im accustomed to.
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