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    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    @ Eric Chan

    Yep, my thoughts persactly! My Kimtah eVent rain parka does the same job and is quite durable. No sense carrying extra slothing.

    My polyester long sleeved shirts are fairly wind resistant but breathable. I always wear them backpacking in the mountain west for sum protection. Once in late April in the Grand Canyon I wore my REI Sahara long sleeved shirt over a light fleece vest and was fine in a very cool wind. Mechanix gloves and a hat helped too.

    At the time I had a GTX PacLite parka but I left it at home, thinking I wouldn't need it with a 5 day high pressure forecast. Never again will I backpack without a WPB parka.

    #1895371
    Lars Laird Iversen
    Spectator

    @larslaird

    I love my Boreas for skiing and short runs – but it does gain weight in rain. Would the softshell material approve of a round in the washing machine with Nikwax TX-direct? Or is that only for wb/b materials?

    #1895404
    James holden
    BPL Member

    @bearbreeder-2

    itll work fine .. i find grangers works better, youll need to throw it on the dryer at moderate heat to activate the DWR … and reapply it often

    #1895896
    rowan !
    Member

    @romonster

    Locale: SF Bay Area

    Well, you guys have convinced me that a windshirt can largely replace my Gore-tex hardshell, which is aging and now sports a variety of holes both large and small. Since I usually wear it for added warmth and don't see much rain, the windshirt should be suitable. I tried on a Verto, on clearance at REI, but decided to order the Stoic Luminous Thrive instead, as it cost half as much (also on clearance)and the Verto didn't fit that well. It arrived today! And it fits perfectly. I can hardly wait to try it out!

    #1895930
    Elsie Ashworth
    Member

    @elsieashworth

    A windshirt is cool, comfortable and quick-drying enough to wear as a lone base layer. If you are exerting yourself in a mild, damp climate, and need to keep yourself covered for reasons of a) decency, and b) fending off small, biting flies, and disease-carrying ticks, it is the best option. Whilst Merino is nice to wear, a wool base layer does not take well to scrambling amongst rocks and brush, and will not dry as fast as a windshirt if you get soaked. I find that as long as I’m moving uphill, a windshirt alone is enough down to about -5 degrees C. If you are walking up a mountain in slushy snow, and need to pause, you can throw a pertex & pile top or Paramo over the windshirt, without feeling clammy underneath. If you have garments that dry fast, you don’t worry so much about getting wet, and you don’t feel like a boil-in-the-bag sweaty mess.

    #1898294
    Todd Smith
    Member

    @toddsmith69mac-com

    Thanks Dave, this looks like another very usefull review. However, I want to reiterate what Neale pointed out in his July 13 comment in case you missed it: you are reviewing an obsolete, discontinued version of the Houdini, which is no longer available. If at all possible, you should switch and review the current model in Part 2 of your report, otherwise it will be a "state-of-last-year's-market" report.

    The new model weighs less and is supposed to be more wind resistant. Don't waste your time (and your readers') writing about a model that is no longer available.

    #1898299
    David Chenault
    BPL Member

    @davec

    Locale: Queen City, MT

    Timeliness, comprehensiveness, unity of perspective. All good things to have with gear reviews. Alas, unless circumstances are favorable (usually when a production sample is available well ahead of retail release) it's hard enough to cover two of three. My personal opinion is that the second is often sacrificed for the first.

    And yet, SOTMRs are not reviews. Or not merely reviews. They're discussions of what the market is at the moment, and more importantly why that is so. Chasing the latest and greatest is helpful for guiding retail purchases, but less so for the more meta discussions which are BPLs bread and butter.

    #1904736
    BlackHatGuy
    Spectator

    @sleeping

    Locale: The Cascades

    The Boreas has become one of my favorite pieces of backpacking clothing. It goes with me on every trip where the temps might dip below 60 degrees during the day. It breathes incredibly well, blocks enough wind on chilly days to keep me cool (I prefer to hike cool, not warm) and handles light drizzle well enough. On my recent Sierra trip, I wore it a few times with great success – I didn't sweat while hiking (which is unusual), and I didn't need to don my rain top for the light rain we got a few days of the trip (it took much harder rain before I got the Haglofs out). Yup, it weighs more than most wind shirts, but I love it, and don't even carry a 'true' wind shirt anymore, the Boreas fills the bill beautifully. A great piece of gear.

    #1908517
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    An good review IF ya use "windshirts" (really wind parkas)

    But I don't want the extra weight or expense. I wear long sleeved polyester or nylon shirts that are fairly wind resistant. My .511 nylon shirt is very wind resistant but heavier.

    My answer is to use my light REI eVentrain parka if I ever need THAT much protection from the wind.

    So no, a windshirt is NOT an indispensible item whereas a WPB parka is. (Of course, in my humble but experienced opinion.)

    #1908585
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    A windshirt is an intermediate layer, which is always open to being dropped from a gear list. I'll argue that it is very effective because it can improve warmth while remaining breathable. It is dispensible for extreme weather, but comes into play for temperate weather, which is what most 3 season hikers want. I use my windshirt more than my rain shell or puffy insulation, and the freqency of use is the real benchmark for inclusion on my hear list.

    When properly layered, a windshirt is providing the same outer skin that an insulated jacket would have, but can be used with just a base layer or thicker mid layers rather than being permanently comitted to use as only an insulated garment. You get wind, sun, bug and light rain protection all in one 4 ounce garment.

    Your 5.11 shirt is doing exactly the same thing, but at greater weight and less compressible storage. A windshirt should be thought of as a shirt with some jacket-like features (mostly the hood). The full front zip isn't much difference in practice than the row of buttons on your 5.11 shirt. So it is a conventional button down shirt at 10 ounces or a windshirt at 4 ounces and more versatility.

    #1925676
    Yes 1000
    Spectator

    @mamamia

    While it can't hang around with the big dogs tested here, I have a Eddie Bauer Sirroco wind shirt which is on sale for $20 and I attest its usefulness for relatively little money I spent to buy it.

    #1925684
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    "Well, you guys have convinced me that a windshirt can largely replace my Gore-tex hardshell, which is aging and now sports a variety of holes both large and small. Since I usually wear it for added warmth and don't see much rain, the windshirt should be suitable."

    Windshirts are great, but you should carry some sort of rain gear. If you aren't seeing much use for rain gear, a DriDucks top or a poncho would be good choices. A GoLite poncho is just 7oz and takes up little space. If you can sew, it is an easy project. You get a handy-dandy emergency shelter in the bargain. If you are in the desert, an umbrella gives good dual use.

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