2019 Trek Selection Questions

Some of the “Program Features” are activities that some Scouts would otherwise not have an opportunity to experience in their home town life. Shooting sport, horse rides, climbing/rappelling so you may want them to participate in those.

Shorter easier treks may leave your crew with more (too much) down time unless your crew sleeps in late, makes coffee, waits for the sun to dry their tents and do not hit the trail until mid-morning. Then it be all they can do to get to their next camp before dark-thirty. Late hiking crews hike in the heat of the day, risk hiking in thunder storms, end up with the worst campsites and miss “Program Features”.

If your crew trains using the skills needed and practices breaking camp and get on the trail at first light they will hike in the coolest part of the day, get the best campsite and be the first in line at all their “Program Features”.

Sometimes it is wise to “counsel” your crew into making the right choice.

Cyphers Mine Camp is on such steep terrain they built lean-to platforms for crews to camp on. Those are the only such “cabins” I’ve seen.

The way we do it …for what it’s worth ….

The Crew Leader gets up an hour before dawn and wakes everyone else. Before they even get out of their tent everybody changes into their trail clothes, packs away sleep and camp clothes, stuffs sleeping bag, packs sleep pad and puts on their boots as they get out of their tent. Tent buddies strike their tent and pack their packs.

Those assigned crew gear retrieve and pack it, cookware, stoves, first aid kit…

The Bear Rope and Bag Scouts retrieve and empty them at the Fire Ring for everyone to retrieve their Smellables Bag. The Crew Leader divides toady’s breakfast into equal piles for each camper to put in their pockets to eat now or later. He re-divides the food stores into appropriate piles for the Scouts.

Weather permitting, we often strike and pack the Dining Fly before supper so it will be dry and expedite morning pack-up. We cover our packs with rain covers and keep our boots under our tent fly or vestibule.

The Crew Leader calls for everyone to form a line and walk across the entire campsite (police the area) to check for and pick-up trash or lost gear.

With practice we can do all this within 30 minutes and are on the trail at first light, about 30 before dawn when it is just light enough to see well. We can hike at about 2 mph so are often in our next camp before noon.

“Philmont should be enjoyed, not endured.”

I wasn’t born with the Philmont instinct. It has to be learned.

My first trek was with a Council Contingent crew made up of inexperienced campers from all over our Council. Our Crew Leader “had been before”, big deal. His Crew Roster was from the hip and who he was mad at. We could not get him out of his tent until well after sun up. Hiking in the heat was brutal, got caught in a few afternoon thunder storms, seldom got to do Program Features and slept on hill sides in some crummy campsites.

We did alright with Philmont’s unique skills and techniques as taught to us by our Ranger. He gave us a great pack shakedown to get rid of extra and unnecessary gear we still do today.

But Philmont was so great I wanted to do it again.

My second trek was with my now troop that had been multiple times and they advanced my techniques, Wow, Philmont became easy and we are still improving our techniques.

Most crews at Philmont appear to be first timers. And Philmont is trying to help first timers with their PASS program

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No , you will be staying in the tents you carry. There are cabin tours like at Fish Camp  and staff also  live in the cabins. From your list my guys did horseback riding, shotgun shooting and archery. They had a good time. a shorter trek will probably work out for you better than a longer one. Our was at the end of July and the first week of August and that’ s the start of the rainy season. That means rushing to get into camp and get it set up before the afternoon storms start.