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  • #3438764
    Alex C
    BPL Member

    @alex-cat-2

    Interested for sure

     

    #3442950
    David Gardner
    BPL Member

    @gearmaker

    Locale: Northern California

    Sorry for the slow response guys.

    I tried an idea for larger pots, where the edges of the windscreen touch the bottom of the pot. This allows for any size pot, and stabilizes the windscreen.

    Didn’t work worth a darn. Not enough exhaust area to run the stove at full blast. So I tried increasing the exhaust area and added two more intake holes too:

    Better, but still not able to operate stove at full throttle, and very susceptible to wind. Enough so that I didn’t bother with formal tests.

    I have a couple more ideas, but it will be some time until I get to them.

    #3442963
    robert k
    BPL Member

    @rob-k

    Locale: SF Bay Area

    Hi David,

    I like your designs and can appreciate the time you’ve spent testing. Like many on this forum, I have a BRS-3000T , but wanted a wind screen that would let it function without ‘flame flutter’ in at least moderate breezes. Having some spare aluminum flashing and some spare time I came up with this:

     

    Sorry for the sideways image. I’ve found that ,at least with this design, there can’t be any air gap between the pot and windscreen on the up-wind side. The down-wind side is wide open as is the underside. Heat radiated onto the top of the canister increases its temperature slightly, but still passes the finger test. And ,importantly, the screen fits inside my 400 ml pot as well as reducing boil time by about 30%, again, in a light breeze. In a strong wind I’d set up in a more sheltered area.

    It has enough air flow to allow full throttle operation, but in practice I only use about 50% throttle.

    Your concept is a whole lot more elegant than this simple design and I look forward to seeing your perfected final iteration.

    rob

     

     

    #3443573
    David Gardner
    BPL Member

    @gearmaker

    Locale: Northern California

    Hey Rob, I thought I posted a reply earlier, but I don’t see it now. The most elegant design is the simplest one that accomplishes the task. I like your idea and reproduced it in titanium. Unfortunately, I could not get the screen to stay in place because it immediately got so hot that it drooped. I’m amazed your aluminum doesn’t melt!

    #3443601
    Brad Rogers
    BPL Member

    @mocs123

    Locale: Southeast Tennessee

    Is there any way to secure this to the third arm as well?  That could take the sag out of it.  I like this design.

    #3443690
    robert k
    BPL Member

    @rob-k

    Locale: SF Bay Area

    David,

    Curious, maybe your Ti screen is thinner than my Al flashing.I don’t have a micrometer so I can’t measure its thickness, but it’s pretty thin, but yet rigid enough to not droop as shown in the first photo below with the pot boiling. A friend gave me some of the flashing years ago so I have no idea what grade it is, but it’s very light and I cut it with scissors. I should have mentioned that the protrusions at each end that slot into the triangular openings on the BRS pot supports need to be ‘lobed’,( that is to say not straight-sided) so that they will lock into position when the windscreen is installed. You can see their shape in one of the photos below. The lobes need to be small enough to fit into the wider(inner) end of the pot support opening, but larger than the outer part of the pot support opening so that they are held in place via tension.

    And Brad brings up a good point should you encounter drooping. So I made a hanging support for the third (middle ) pot support from a paper clip bent to shape that keeps the windscreen from drooping , whatever the cause. Hope this helps:

    Rob

    #3518022
    John Donewar
    BPL Member

    @newton

    Locale: Southeastern Texas

    Robert K,

    In the pictures of your windscreen I’m sure I missed the type of material.

    Can you clarify for me please? I have some aluminum flashing and I like the design.

    Thanks,

    Newton

     

    #3518259
    Ben H.
    BPL Member

    @bzhayes

    Locale: No. Alabama

    ….my Al flashing.I don’t have a micrometer so I can’t measure its thickness, but it’s pretty thin, ….. A friend gave me some of the flashing years ago so I have no idea what grade it is, but it’s very light and I cut it with scissors.

    #3554287
    Kevin D
    BPL Member

    @kbdooley

    @rob-k

    Sorry to resurrect an older thread – I was wondering what the hole/slit in your windscreen was for.

     

    #3576667
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    WELL SHUT MY MOUTH!

    This is a much better windscreen than I built, and much lighter. Ti Goat get ready to take my money.

    Tank youse veddy nice Mr.David. Much appreciated.

    #3576750
    Cameron M
    Spectator

    @cameronm-aka-backstroke

    Locale: Los Angeles

    @rob-k

    -With the open bottom, do you think the screen could wrap 360, or do you think that some airflow at the top is required?

    -If airflow at the top is required, do you think that it would it be enough on a 360 design to have some holes punched on the lee side?

    I am left wondering if a 360 wrap design might be more effective, and less fiddly to attach.

    #3576774
    Casey Bowden
    BPL Member

    @clbowden

    Locale: Berkeley Hills

    Posted this 17 gram BRS-3000T windscreen a few years back.

    For more info go here.

    #3595739
    Shelley C
    BPL Member

    @schacon

    @casey bowen

    does the windscreen melt your jetboil cozy?

    #3595779
    Casey Bowden
    BPL Member

    @clbowden

    Locale: Berkeley Hills

    nope

    #3595951
    DAN-Y
    BPL Member

    @zelph2

    Full metal jacket for extra efficiency.

    YouTube video

     

    #3648025
    Cameron M
    Spectator

    @cameronm-aka-backstroke

    Locale: Los Angeles

    Just saw this video. Nice work. I wonder how well it works, and its weight?

    #3648064
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    I missed this thread

    Another design:

    That gives you a heat exchanger effect also, about 10% efficiency improvement.  Fits into pot.  1.25 ounces

    #3648080
    Cameron M
    Spectator

    @cameronm-aka-backstroke

    Locale: Los Angeles

    Thanks Jerry. The heat exchanger aspect is appealing.

    Can it sit with a full pot of water, or do you need to separate it when coming off the stove?

    What is the wire cincture/how fiddly is it?

    #3648082
    David Gardner
    BPL Member

    @gearmaker

    Locale: Northern California

    Yesterday I tested a proof-of-concept prototype of a new design roughly inspired by the MSR Windburner. No strict protocols followed, just wanted to see if it worked.

    Cold tap water, outdoors in breezy conditions, three burns with and three burns without, stove setting not changed between burns. The burns were all done in pairs, first with and then without, at the same burner setting to eliminate that variable. Early results are very encouraging: average time with = 4:29 to boil, average time without 9:13.

    Used .003″ stainless steel for this prototype. Mesh is 120 openings/inch. Weight = 1.196 oz/33.90 gm.

    One of the things I really like about this particular setup is that I can use the same windscreen whether I’m burning alcohol, Esbits, wood, or butane.

    I’ve ordered some Ti sheet, foil and mesh to make a pre-production prototype and will update this thread when it’s done.

    #3648092
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    Cameron – #18 galvanized steel wire

    You need to adjust the length so it squishes (springs) the aluminum to the pot keeping it on.  It stays on quite securely.

    I just leave it on the pot after the water boils.  There’s some slight advantage to having a broad base (the edge of the windscreen) rather than a narrower base (the pot).  I don’t take it off until I pack up.

     

    #3648093
    Kevin D
    BPL Member

    @kbdooley

    I like how not-fiddly this design is… Have you used it much or tested it for efficiency? Would love to see some data on it… Any issues with overheating without vents?

    #3648098
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    who are you talking about? : )

    #3648099
    Kevin D
    BPL Member

    @kbdooley

    Oh, sorry, I hit reply on the design I was talking about, and assumed it would include a reference to the right post…

    Sorry about the confusion – I was directing that at @Dan Y and his video above.

    #3648242
    DAN-Y
    BPL Member

    @zelph2

    Just saw this video. Nice work. I wonder how well it works, and its weight?

     

    Lots of info regarding the video can bee seen at this link:

    https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/titanium-hx-windscreen-for-canister-stoves/

     

    #3648285
    Graham F
    BPL Member

    @02174424

    Locale: Victoria-Southeast Australia

    Hey Jerry could you whack up another picture of your accordion type shield?

    And a pic off the pot too if it’s not too much trouble-looks nice.

    Ta.

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