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    Nicholas Couis
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    @nichoco

    I’m looking to use either a Patagonia R2 Jacket and BPL Cocoon Vest/Montbell Thermawrap vest or BPL Cocoon Pullover/Montbell Thermawrap Jacket with a Patagonia R2 Vest.I,m looking for the most flexable system with the broadest temperature range.The weight is nearly the same and the fleece is for breathability and durability.Thanks.

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    Mark Verber
    BPL Member

    @verber

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    I assume you are talking reasonably cold weather, right? The combination I like is a montbell thermawrap vest paired with a patagonia micro puff, though the Cocoon pullover would be a fine choice as well.

    My standard winter trip has the days which range between 10j-30F with the nights dropping to between -10 and 20F. In these conditions I typically bring a Patagonia R.5 base (mid to heavy weight), warm hat, neck gaitor, an unlined hooded wind shell (patagonia essenshell – EPIC fabric, or dragonfly 3oz windshirt), a Thermawrap vest, and the patagonia micro puff.

    I have found that depending on wind I can be comfortable when active in my base + hat + (either the windshirt or thermawrap) down to around 20F and the combination of the two down to around 0F. When sitting around the combination of vest + windshirt keeps me happy to around 20F.

    For me, the micro puff is way too warm when I am active until it is below 5F, and too warm sitting around if it is above around 35F. So I use the micro puff during rest stops and at night when I am not really active. If it gets suprisingly cold I sometimes wear base + the micro puff when active, and the thermawrap vest and micro puff once I stop.

    Of course, these temp ranges assume I am not wet and have had enough to eat / drink. Compromise one of these things and and the comfort ranges change.

    –mark

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