Mountain Magic on the Pyrenean High Route

Great article David. It makes me want to go back to the Pyrenees. In years gone by I've done several two week hikes there and have covered the High Level Route from the Cirque de Lescun to the Carlit. It is magnificent country. I've always camped even though that meant a heavier load and only carried an ice and crampons on one trip, for the ascent of Aneto.

David –

Nice work on this article. You seem to have a natural talent for writing.

In the section on pack weight and the environmental demands of the route, I feel like an important question went unanswered: Did you feel that your previous backpacking experiences (the biggest one of which seems to have been the AT) would have adequately prepared you for the HRP? I'm trying to understand exactly how difficult the HRP is — perhaps to put it on my own tick list, since it looks pretty awesome — and it would help to know what sort of skills and experiences you brought to the table, so to speak.

While I have not done the HRP, I can think of some comparable experiences (Sierra High Route, Iceland, shoulder-seasons in the American West). But if I had done any of these immediately after doing the AT without first having cut my teeth on more intermediate-level trips, I think I would have been taken back by their difficulty. (And, in that sense, kudoos to you for just going after it and figuring thing out along the way.)

enjoyed the article but I'm afraid I'm gonna disagree quite some. I'm aware you were there kind of early in the season in a high snow year and I'm sure that made your HRP hike harder than strictly necessary but by reading your account it seems the Pyrenees are a kind of last frontier, inhospitable wilderness which by any means they are not.

What's true is these mountains are rugged, beautiful and the scenery is as dramatic as it can get and the HRP takes the rough approach. The actual difficulty I find a HRP thru-hike involves is the exposure and the potential for trouble this may bring. That is adequately pictured in the article. When the HRP takes the rocky areas near the crest, there's usually no trail and you get very exposed to the weather, a bad combination. These stretches are not uncommon and they're the kind of place where I wouldn't want to be in bad weather conditions. Your experience in Gourges Blancs is a good example. But in good weather (mostly to be expected during the summer) these are glorious sections with no farther difficulty than hiking on a rocky wasteland or ocassionally over some really steep terrain. There's hardly any length of the route without some marks (rock cairns are common where there's nothing else) so one needs to be map consciuos but I found route finding straightforward while there was visibility. Most of the route is over good trails though and part of the orienteering challenge lies on choosing the right fork, there are so many trails in some sections. I'm aware there are many areas that would look scary and could be actually dangerous in bad weather but the bad weather is not to be expected all the time.

I thru-hiked the HRP in august 2005, a quite average snow year and only found significant snow in Gourges Blancs (exposed but slope-wise easy terrain) and Literole (steep and potentially dangerous if the snow is frozen, which was not when I went through but may happen anytime in the summer). I'm well aware more snow would have completely changed my perception of the trip but what I found is quite the average for these mountains in mid-late summer which is the easiest time to be out there on the HRP.

One thing that stands out from your report is that you hiked a very fast pace on the AT but didn't keep that up on the HRP. I'm sure this had a huge impact on your logistics. I hiked the HRP in 29 days (4 of which where shared with a friend who would hike barely half the distance I was used to) and my sections were 5 to 7 days long at the most. I was also following Joostens (excellent) book. I didn't do any side trips or climbs though except for a couple obvious ones very close to the trail. What I mean is the HRP is absolutely doable in ultralight fashion (if I can do it, anybody can) in a 20 mile per day average despite the huge, continous climbs. Maybe not by the time you were there though. I was also avoiding the stuffed huts entirely and only once did I stay overnight (but not eat or ressuply) in one due to those fierce winds that do actually happen (but not every night! :) Ressuply anyway is not as difficult as it seems from the article, even if you avoid the huts. At 20 – 25 miles/day, I was crossing a road (a tarmac road) pretty much every day! and villages are all over the place, usually just a few kms. down the road if not right en-route. I haven't hiked the AT but for a comparison that may be valid for many reading this forums I've thru-hiked trails like the PCT or Colorado Trail where ressuply is way far more scattered and away from the trail than on the HRP, even if huts are not considered. I chose to follow Joostens' stage breakdown and only ressuplied 4 times but I skipped several on-trail options and slightly off-trail ones too numerous to mention.

My base weight was just under 10 pounds and I must say that's the lowest I've ever gone for a long distance trip. I'm definitely not at the edge of UL. On the HRP maybe I got more confident for being near home (not that it helps anything but it may have a psychological influence) or for knowing civilization would always be a stone throw from wherever I was. I actually missed the feeling of being really away from civilization. I used unstuffed huts or shepherds' huts occasionally but camped most nights. It's absolutely true that camping out puts you in a vulnerable position: no much forest camping, most is high up in the mountains with little shelter but I didn't find it so difficult to find spots. The high reaches have many flat areas like the valley headwaters with thick grass and meandering streams, those make for gorgeous campsites and were my standard kind of place to camp. They are still exposed places and very sensitive to bad weather. There are indeed a few longish stretches that are too rocky but they're not the norm. Gourges Blancs to Literole is probably the only really long one. I used an oversized tarp and no bivy and I was fine even through some big storms. A mountaineering tent could be a good idea if you want to camp no matter where, no matter the weather but it's not strictly need IMO. Using a tarp certainly had an influence in my hike but that's to be expected and I didn't find it was a big limiting factor on this trip.

Another important difference about the different timing is people. You mention few people! definitely not the case in august. I'm surprised you found few people even in July. Actually, one of the most disturbing things I find about these mountains is the people. Not as much the quantity as the quality. There are so many roads (easy access to the high country) and stuffed huts (easy staying in the high country) that it's common to meet people who woudn't otherwise be there. I'm careful to avoid saying "shouldn't" be there but it was deeply disturbing to be coming down from some gourgeous pass, feeling like you conquered something and alone in the "wilderness" and suddenly meeting a group of 20 having a stroll, hands in their pockets. 15 min. further I'd come across a huge, hotel-like stuffed hut. A couple hours down a good trail there was motorized access. The thing is, there's no real wilderness anywhere in the Pyrenees. Sometimes it may look like there is but look north and south: there's bound to be a road and a village down every main valley.

I don't want to make this longer than the article itself :) which was great reading and inspiring but again I honestly think it's a tad overdone in some aspects. I'm well aware though the difficulty of a trip lies a lot in the conditions met and that's particulary true in these rugged mountains so much encroached by human activity that the hiking takes you inevitably to where you're more vulnerable.

Congratulations on a fantastic article and a great hike.
I hike these mountians and treat them with the healthiest respect. Every hike I made last summer saw me hit by a big storm at some point, irrespective of the forecast. I think your gear selection in spot on- my base (everything except food and water) is around 5.5kg, or 12 pounds, and I've survived some nasty blows comfortably.
I'm only a novice compared to most people here. I hike solo, and feel reassured that there are people around, if not in sight or hearing distance. Being able to speak French and Spanish, I actually look forward to a chat with the locals on some days when I haven't seen anyone for a while. It's the European way.
Pristine, unpopulated wilderness it isn't, but you can still get away from it all and interact with nature and the wildlife in the raw, along with the cows, the horses, the goats and their shepherds that dwell in the high country for the summer.
Congratulations again. Great read.

Having hiked there already a few times and certainly planning to go back, I can only agree that this article was a joy to read.
For me personally, it was also interesting to get somekind of comparison between the kind of trails I'm used to hike and what to expect in the US. I was kind of suprised to read that even the easiest day in the central section was harder than the hardest day on the AT. How then would the HRP compare with the other trails in the US like the CDT or the PCT. Still something I haven't figured out after all those years and most of the pictures in trip reports here on BPL give the impression of much easier walking than what I'm used to in the Pyrenees or the Alps.

Hi Amy

The French usually ring the 'meteo'. There may be a web site now – need to search. Check also through FFRP. Starting in June is indeed taking a chance – especially as many of the Refuges and Gites don't open until the middle of July!

we (wife & I) wear joggers with a good sole. The Salomon Extend lows were fine. The New Balance MT1110GT would be fine. You don't need leather boots. But a stiffish sole rather than something really soft is better as there are muddy and snowy patches.

> Which language is more useful on the HRP?
The Spanish on the border do not speak French, and the French do not speak Spanish. So There!
Having a bit of both languages is useful, although a fair bit of English is spoken!

David, this is easily the best article I've read on BPL. Informative, thorough and well written. Congratulations on your crossing, a great adventure. Kath and I ended up on an unplanned foray into Andorra in November a year ago and found our lightweight kit slightly inadequate to the ice-rime on the inside of our small single pole tent. That said, we did ok. I can attest to the steepness and ruggedness of the climbing in the high pyrenees, I day hiked up a couple of the mountains from around 1300M to around 3200M and it was…. hard. Carrying a 25 pound pack as well would have had me gasping and your article is an excellent primer for planning a realistic route for us. For those like us who would find it a bit much, I can recommend the lower route on the spanish side at the eastern end. A more gently undulating route with beautiful views and welcoming small villages. The GR8 I think, I'll check.

Thanks again.

Thanks Roger C. My memory is abysmal since the crash I was in a while ago. Do you have an account of your trek online anywhere? I'd like to revisit that route and go further.

We are flying to Alicante in late Jan for some fun on the Bernia ridge and around.

Do you have any plans to return to Spain?

Dear Amy,
I thought that doing the HRP was like a combination of the John Muir Trail and the Sierra High Route. But you have to add in the fierce but usually short storms, the added danger because of lightning and the fog banks which can sit on the French side for several days.Route finding can become very difficult if not impossible.
Like the Sierra, the temperatures are usually mild . I would advise a medium fleece jacket rather than down.

This year has started out as a monster snow year. The French Meteo is very easy to use and has a depth of snowpack feature for all parts of the Pyrenees. You can find it under France Meteo and I believe there is an english version. Have a great time

Derek,

Yes, we probably did pass somewhere. And it was probably a good idea to go over Mulleres west-bound; that was one freaky 10 minutes on the way down the first 50 or so meters off the rocks on the top.

It's interesting what you said about the Kahtoola crampons with trailrunners; I considered them, but ended up going with boots/CAMP crampons to play it safe. I far prefer trail runners to boots as well, and I think I'll probably try what you used next (early) summer on the Colorado Trail.

Cheers,
-David

Jonas,

Yeah, I more or less just used the Ton Joosten guide. I also did some poking around on the internet (there wasn't much), and talked with some people I know from other backpacking forums. The Joosten guide is good, although the 2004 version is a bit outdated, which sometimes causes problems (one of the refuges, for example, has since closed down).

However, I heard from an English couple that Ton Joosten actually hiked the HRP again this year to update the book, although that's just hearsay. Although, I also heard that he took the variants around GeorgesBlancs / Portillion / Literole / Mulleres because he didn't want to deal with the snow, so I don't know if he'll just go to press with the new book without re-hiking those pieces, or if he'll go back and do them this summer (I don't think it matters – I don't think anything has changed in the high parts since '04).

He's quite a celebrity in the Pyrenees – apparently everyone knows him on sight, and he's supposed to be a really affable, easy-going guy (he's also famous for carrying a "huge" pack!).

-D

I have a gear list specific to doing sections of the HPR for the first time on

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=17348

and I would really appreciate some feedback from the people here who have far more experience than me as I plan to do parts of the HPR next summer.

Sorry if I have seemed to sidetrack the thread momentarily, but this seems like too good an opportunity to miss seeing as this thread is about the area I hike.

Many thanks in advance if you can spare the time.