Warm liner glove no sticking to velcro

[dirtbag]

So I always have used smart wool liner glove or another brand wool liner glove. Is there a pair of gloves , similar to a merino wool or such that will not stick to velcro? Obviously they can’t be wool,  but must be light weight, not bulky at all and still keep hands relatively warm even when damp.  My issue is when pitching my Winter tent, or breaking it down, the small tabs inside for the poles are velcro. Its just slightly annoying doing it with the wool liner gloves,  though by no means a deal breaker on the tent.  Not even a deal breaker on the merino liner gloves if I don’t find anything comparibly better.. Just brain storming some minor details that possibly could make life easier in the elements when making and breaking camp, while not compromising anything else.

 

[DWR D]

Finger-less gloves?

[dirtbag]

No. Full finger required.

[dirtbag]

Thinking about Outdoor Research Trail mix gloves.. But they may stick as well..

[JCH]

DWR D might be on the right track.

But I would think that any woven glove, regardless of material, would get caught by velcro…not just the fingers.  Perhaps if you found a very slick, thin glove shell that would go over the gloves? Might just reduce dexterity to an unacceptable level though.  The outer shell of OR Versaliners is very thin and slippery.

Thinking about Outdoor Research Trail mix gloves

The grid fleece of the Trail Mix gloves will almost certainly get caught in velcro.

[Jerry Adams]

I just tested it – fleece just barely sticks to velcro.  If you really press it into the hook velcro it sticks a little.  If you do a glancing blow it doesn’t stick at all

[dirtbag]

Thanks Jerry!

[JCH]

Seems to be dependent on the fleece and the velcro…both are not always the same.  My fleece gloves stick to some velcro like crazy, not so much with other types, as Jerry experienced.

[Terran Terran]

Just a thought.

https://www.instructables.com/Plasti-Dip-Glove-Repair/#

[Bill Budney]

Will an oversize nitrile glove fit over your liner? Doubles as VBL in cold weather or rain glove in warmer weather.

Maybe neoprene (but nitrile is lighter and more compact).

Food service (plastic) gloves are super ultra light, but not very rugged.

[SIMULACRA]

Not similar to merino wool, and maybe misses the mark on bulk. But what about the NRS Hydroskin gloves? They also come as fingerless, just in case. They’re very snug fitting. You would do well sizing up or trying a pair on at REI before buying, if this is up your alley.

[Terran Terran]

I think the NRS gloves may be curved to hold a paddle.

[SIMULACRA]

Not really. Just a very thin neoprene. Durability could be an issue from pulling on and off. They run snug.

[dirtbag]

Yeah think im gonna try the trail glove..

[Stephen Seeber]

2 or 3 mm Hydroskin will work. I wear them as a liner all winter. They also work as a pretty good vapor barrier to keep glove insulation nearly dry.

[Krishna M]

Perhaps if you found a very slick, thin glove shell that would go over the gloves? Might just reduce dexterity to an unacceptable level though.

I have used the Montbell UL Shell gloves this way. These don’t stick to velcro. The fabric is very thin, so I feel that the dexterity is mostly preserved. It also seems to work with a touchscreen if the liner glove has that capability.

For sizing reference, I wear the Montbell Chameece gloves in a medium as liners and opted for the UL Shell gloves in XL to layer over them. I’ve also tried the UL Shell gloves in a large over the same Chameece gloves, but it felt a little restrictive as the fabric has no stretch. The large may have worked if the liner gloves were more thinner.

[Nicholas P]

I wonder if instead of replacing your gloves if it’s possible you could consider modifying the tent to eliminate the Velcro. Those little hooks and loops are handy but also evil , I say place the blame where the blame is do.

[dirtbag]

$650+  3p tent/vestibule . VS $25 cheap liner gloves that get replaced once every 2 years..

Again.. the tent is near perfect for my needs and the conditions I have used it in.  2.5 – 3 foot heavy wet snow loading.. 50 mph winds..  packs very small,  lightweight for what it is. For  myself its perfect winter palace and it also works great for 2 people.. especially if tent bound for multiple days.  If you know the tent, the small velcro loop tabs are what keeps the poles from sliding around when its pitched.. in strong winds.  I suppose I could modify that.. but why would I ever want to? It works the way it was designed and I have put it through the tests myself personally to know it works.  The gloves? I am always replacing them every 2 years anyway..  and even if i decided to buy the same pair.. it has worked ok settimg up and breaking down the tent.. just a minor hassel.. also using my OR Gaitors.. the velcro to open and close them.. minor hassel but it works.  So I am trying to see if I can find a simple liner glove to replace the ones I have been using.  I ordered the OR Research Trail Mix gloves and I will see if they make any difference while still functioning as well as my Smartwool liner gloves.   I kind of wish Black Diamond kept with the twist locks they used on the Fitzroy and Eldorado tents.. though I am sure people had issues with them also.. I never have and I actually like them. The small velcro loops do keep the poles tight snug in place,  so.. Whatever. Is what it is.. should have the OR liner glove sometime next week and I will be sure to test them out pitching the tent in my yard.. and then wearing the gloves every day to and from work to see how they are.

[Nicholas P]

I hear ya Dirtbag. I know It would be a PITA to do that and switching gloves is a far more simple solution. Sorry for the not so helpful suggestion as it was made partly in jest as I do  have an aversion to Velcro I tend to like Wool and other fabrics that  are too often victimized  by Velcro. All That being said I think there are probably more than a few MYOG types on here that might dislike Velcro enough and/or like there wool enough to not think twice about making such a modification. Like you though I am not one of them.

With the velcro sticking to liners issue aside, even bare handed I find attaching Velcro around poles in tents to be sometimes more fiddly than I like, It’s a minor gripe but if all else is the same I would prefer a different attachment method.
Anyway I think the OR liners are probably a good bet. Also It’s great that your tent is working out well for you and in those conditions especially reliability is definitely of foremost concern .

-stay safe out there

[Thom]

Polartec wind stopper
thom

[John S.]

Use your vbl dishwashing glove for that short task ; ).

[jscott]

“Use your vbl dishwashing glove for that short task ; ).”

Or…take off your Merino liners. or just one! And then put them back on.

Yes, velcro pulls on wool and other fabrics, and always will. Dirtbag has already said that changing out the velcro in his tent isn’t worth it. We all agree. So…it’s annoying and cold, but what else is to be done? Take off the gloves.

I may be wrong, but those wool gloves function better for warmth than synthetics that don’t catch on velcro, if such a thing exists.

 

[dirtbag]

@jscott.  Exactly.  Take the gloves off and quickly attatch or detatch the poles to velcro. Sucks when its 0° F or below.. but it can be done quickly enough.  Again.. hence not a deal breaker.. just minor inconvenience and there is no “unicorn’ tent.. though this is quite possibly the closest to one for me.

[John S.]

Breaking down tent poles in more humid areas (arkansas lately) when temps are in 30s, for me, can cause hand numbness from the water on poles. I did that a couple of times and my ring and little finger were numb for several hours before the temps got higher. It is not fun. Just keeping them from getting wet can help.

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