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    Simon Kenton
    BPL Member

    @simonbutler

    I loved cowboy camping out west. I could notice a substantial difference between an unimpaired view of the night sky and looking through the nanoseeum netting of a net tent.

    Now, in coastal New England, I don’t have nearly as many opportunities for cowboy camping (thanks Lyme disease).

    I know a simple solution would be to sew a rectangular piece of transparent material to my net tent in the area directly above my head. Then remove the netting and, bingo, a (nearly) unobstructed view.

     

    My question to the MYOG community: What material would you use for the window? 3mil polycro, vinyl, etc.? I’d like the window to be sufficiently durable enough to not have to baby it. I’m leaning towards vinyl because I have a hard time believing the weight difference for such a small piece would be substantial.

     

    #3401526
    Hoosier T
    BPL Member

    @jturner140

    Locale: Midwest

    Whatever you use, I would probably sew velcro to both the perimeter of the  newly cut hole in the netting and to the “window” so it can be replaced if/when it starts to yellow.

    #3401856
    Colin Krusor
    BPL Member

    @ckrusor

    Locale: Northwest US

    I have been interested in this for the same reasons as you. I did a lot of reading and ultimately I tried nine different film types. Automotive “paint protection film” was the winner.

    My thinking was this: “hard”, crinkly, low-stretch films like polyester, polypropylene, nylon, etc. are lightweight and strong, but they tend to very easily propagate tears from a small nick or puncture, some are very difficult to bond (i.e. “polycryo” crosslinked polypropylene), and most of them “haze” (become cloudy from innumerable tiny crinkle-lines) over time. Most “soft” films like polyethylene, PVC, etc. have much lower tensile strength than the hard films, so thicker (heavier) stock is required. Also, many film materials are very sensitive to UV radiation, and rapidly yellow and break down in sunlight. An ideal tent window material should be crystal clear, resistant to crinkle-induced hazing, strong enough to permit use of thin (lightweight) stock, UV-resistant, and resistant to tear propagation.

    Urethane “paint protection films” (also called “leading edge film”) has all of the desired properties. It contains UV stabilizers, it is very strong and resistant to punctures and tears, and it is crystal clear and doesn’t haze or yellow. It is lighter, stronger, and more UV-resistant than PVC film, which is the usual material in tent windows. Many paint protection films have adhesive on one side, but this can easily be removed with alcohol.

    I hope this helps.

    #3401874
    Simon Kenton
    BPL Member

    @simonbutler

    I couldn’t have hoped for better info, Colin. This makes my day. The adhesive will make it easier to sew, then remove it like you said. Great stuff, thanks!

    #3401877
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Paul
    Is your netting dark black ?
    I’m asking because it is a lot easier to see through black than white (or light) netting.
    (mind you , I have only tested the difference in daylight…)

    #3401881
    Simon Kenton
    BPL Member

    @simonbutler

    It appears to be lighter black or charcoal. I’m not sure if it appears lighter because of the weave or whether it is actually lighter. I’ll get out the magnifying glass tonight and check it. I noticed a difference when I used a SS2 net tent as well.

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