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  • #3787946
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Do you ever try to fix a piece of gear and curse the creator of the technology? I’m trying to replace the buckle piece of a sternum strap on a day pack, the type with piping and a plastic clasp. Grrr. In theory you use a screwdriver to open the channel enough to get it hooked on the piping. If you have at least three hands anyway, and even then… grrr. What a horrible design. If anyone has a really great solution, I’m all ears. I tried some YouTube videos, but no one had anything other than struggle with it. No good tricks to make it easier.

    I did manage to repair the back panel, which was scrunching down and becoming uncomfortable. I just turned the foam around and replaced the worn out stay with one from another pack I don’t use.

    I guess I could live without a sternum strap; it’s just a day pack. But it bugs me not to be able to fix it. TIA

    #3787950
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Those are cursed. I have those older low REI car camping folding chairs with a sliding lumbar cushion with that sliding plastic part on a rounded seam. I will never buy another piece of gear with those on it.  Never again.

    #3787958
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    Maybe just replace the strap?

    #3787959
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Bill the part you’ve linked to couldn’t be attached to the strap, not without the piece I’m trying to attach. I could try some kind of strap that loops around the pack strap but seems like a janky solution.

    #3787960
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    That IS what I linked. It’s a replacement sternum strap.

    The only difference I see between it and an original sternum strap is the sliders that adjust height of the strap. The built-in sliders stay in position after adjusting them, while the replacement strap has just loops, as you say. Takes an extra second to adjust the height if it moves.

    Agreed that replacing just the buckle would be nicer, if you can.

    #3787961
    Bill in Roswell
    BPL Member

    @roadscrape88-2

    Locale: Roswell, GA, USA

    It’s lame for most of the major pack brands using that bolt rope sternum strap. Doesn’t matter which company, they all are prone to popping off. It makes no sense to me. Is cheaper to make it that way vs the sternum strap sliding on nylon webbing strap?

    #3788464
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    Here is a different kind of replacement sternum strap. This one attaches to the vertical webbing on your shoulder strap (from MLD).

    #3788467
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Thanks Bill, but my shoulder strap has no webbing.

    #3788468
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    How is that possible? Never mind… I’ll take your word for it. :)

    In that case, the first one I linked is certain to work on any strap. I’ve got one on my old Lowe Alpine pack. It’s fine. Not as perfect as the original, but it does the job.

    #3788470
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    I believe AK is referring to this type of (cursed) shoulder strap.

    #3788471
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    If so, then the first strap that I linked would work perfectly. It would work just like the original.

    #3788474
    Dan
    BPL Member

    @dan-s

    Locale: Colorado

    I’m having some trouble visualizing the issue without a photo. The OP mentions replacing the buckle, but then there is discussion of the piece that attaches the strap to the pack, so I’m not picturing the specific problem. My confusion is that it doesn’t seem that one would need to detach the strap from the pack in order to replace the buckle. Maybe we could see a photo of the broken part that needs to be replaced, and how it is held on to the strap?

    #3788483
    Bill in Roswell
    BPL Member

    @roadscrape88-2

    Locale: Roswell, GA, USA

    I see what Bill Budney is trying to convey- a loop of webbing goes around each shoulder strap. A buckle connects the 2 pieces. It is easy to see on this link https://a.co/d/5JuGFOU

     

    #3788486
    baja bob
    BPL Member

    @bajabob

    Locale: West

    On my last trip, someone had a Gregory pack with that kind of sternum strap. Trying to get it back on that piping was an exercise in frustration. Maybe some oil, needle nose pliers and 6 hands might be able to get it back on, but doubtful.

    I took a utility strap and wrapped it around the entire shoulder strap like the one Bill linked. Crude fix that worked.

    #3788488
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Matthew’s photo shows the type of hardware. I have a replacement plastic piece to attach to the piping, just can’t get it to attach. It’s hard plastic, with no give, so to get the opening wide enough to slide onto the piping is just about impossible. I’ve tried pliers to squish down the piping, a screwdriver to pry open the plastic while I (with my third hand) slide it on, etc. It’s utterly maddening.

    I may try just looping some strap around the shoulder strap and replacing both sides of the buckle, as Bill recommended with the Amazon link. It doesn’t have any webbing, so I would guess it will just slide up and down all the time, but I’ll give it a go.

    I will also be on the lookout for this type of attachment on anything I purchase – never again! That said, the pack is at least 8 years old with heavy use, so it has been good. Still, terrible design for the buckles!

    #3788490
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    There is some rope or tube material inside the piping that gives it its shape. I would just go to the very bottom of the piping and with a very sharp utility knife/razor or some good scissors cut about a half inch piece of the piping off (along with the structural round piece inside it). Now you have an open end to slide your new piece of hardware up the pipe. Use a lighter to melt the material once you are done so it doesn’t fray.

    #3788493
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    If you have the buckle, then it may be worth one last try to get it installed. Philip’s tip may work. Or perhaps soaking the buckle in boiling water may soften it?

    Once you give up on the old strap, just cut it off. The strap that I linked is open-ended, so that you can loop it through the hardware shown in Matthew’s picture. The result should be good as new.

     

    #3788497
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Ah, I see the confusion Bill. The hardware shown in Matthew’s picture is the piece that won’t reattach. So with that piece missing, there’s nothing to loop a strap through. The only option is to put a new strap completely around the shoulder trap. Imagine the shoulder strap with nothing on it; that’s what I have now.

    #3788501
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    Oh! The slider is broken, not the buckle?

    In that case it is Philip’s plan (although I would fear reducing structural integrity of the shoulder strap), or ask the manufacturer. Or borrow a third hand from somebody. That plus softening in boiled water might get it done.

    Or, as you say, use a replacement strap that loops around the entire shoulder strap. Once you find the best position, maybe you could secure it in place with a safety pin or duct tape? It probably doesn’t get much vertical stress.

     

    #3788503
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    “I would fear reducing structural integrity of the shoulder strap”

    As long as you don’t cut any of the stitching, I would not sweat this at all.

    #3788504
    Chris S
    BPL Member

    @csc3

    Locale: Alaska

    Is the pack an Osprey? This video claims that whatever is inside the piping on Osprey packs is crushed near the bottom of the shoulder strap, so that the clip can be slid on easily at that spot. Perhaps other manufacturers do that also.

    This poster on reddit claims that he was able to install the clip after heating it up for several minutes with a heat gun. Once heated, it could be pried open far enough with a screwdriver.

    #3788505
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    It’s an Osprey, but the flatter section of piping still doesn’t allow the clip to go on easily. Hmm, maybe I’ll try a hair dryer.

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