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    Marko Botsaris
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    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    I have some Patagonia R1 gloves where I’d like to glue some low-friction patches on the fingers in strategic spots.  These are waterproof neoprene gloves – marketed for cold weather fishing.  The surface of the gloves are very tacky, and unfortunately stick VERY well to fly lines.    I haven’t been able to positively ID the type of outer sealant used. It might be silicone.  Duct tape and all other kinds of tape do not stick to it.  These are nice and fairly expensive gloves and I’d like like not to make a huge mess of it by guessing wrong, if possible.  I was hoping someone here might have some knowledge of either these gloves, or something similar.  My next experiment short of this will be to see if Silnet or Aquaseal sticks.

    FWIW, I asked Patagonia about 2 weeks ago on their chart feature, and a week later they responded to a question I didn’t ask.  They are “back on the case” now that I pointed this out to them, but no useful reply yet. My experience with them on this sort of thing usually has been great, but that all hung on having someone knowledgeable actually getting the question.  Not so much luck getting non-knowledgeable CS people to bring the issue to the right person.

    I’m now contemplating making some test applications of Aquaseal and/or Silnet on spots where the final patches will go to see if they stick.  Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

     

    Follow up edit: OK Aquaseal was a big failure – I got some instant gratification by using UV curing Aquaseal and a UV light. Peels right off after it cures.  Is there anything other than silicone that is like this? I don’t know of anything else. I guess the good news is that it is hard to muck up the gloves.

    #3367126
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Barge cement would be my first try. You might ask a dive shop. PM me if you live inland and I’ll try one here on the Upper Left Coast :)

    #3367133
    Marko Botsaris
    BPL Member

    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    Hum, guess I’ll do a test spot as I have about a dozen tubes of barge. I’m doubtful as I’m now pretty sure the stuff must be silicone impregnated – they are completely water proof, not regular wetsuit material. Aquaseal is good on regular neoprene. On a side note, all my old Silnet tubes, even the unopened ones, are solid rubber I just found out. LOL That is what my neglect of Silnylon for anything over the past 5 or so years has gotten me! I ordered some silicone adhesive to try as well. I’ve got what seems to be the perfect stuff for the patches, but these gloves are like Teflon.

     

    I live just a few minutes drive from Monterey Bay, so I can give a dive shop a try in case they have heard of stuff like this.

    #3367137
    Marko Botsaris
    BPL Member

    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    Hum, looks like the material is called “smooth-skin” neoprene, according to the Patagonia website, and they do make wetsuits out of it. So that is something to google.

     

    This is the description I found:

    “•Yamamoto’s patented SCS material has the Micellestructure molecules applied over the surface of the closed cell neoprene rubber. In the non-buoyant Speedzoot, the neoprene is compressed.
    The SCS Coating is hydrophobic (repelling water) in the air. It turns hydrophilic and reducesfriction resistance close to zero in the water by attracting a microscopic layer of water molecules.Super low resistance of SCS in the water translates to faster swims: it does not absorb water,provides comfort and freedom of movement, and decreased body fatigue.SCS-NANO-Capsule adds another level of friction reduction and increased speed.(See above illustrations of SCS-Metal-NANO and Regular SCS.)”

     

    YIKES! Pretty weird about the hydrophobic in air and hydrophilic in water – hence both waterproof, and wetsuit material, paradoxically.

     

    This appears to be the recommended stuff:

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