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  • #3775879
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex


    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/where-is-a-large-predator-most-likely-to-attack-you/

    But they didn’t report how often humans attack and kill large predators. I’m pretty sure the humans are way ahead.

    — Rex

    #3775899
    Luke Schmidt
    BPL Member

    @cameron

    Locale: Alaska

    Slothbears best out tigers, I’m guessing there are more of them.

    #3775900
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Interesting that the Australian Gov’t has managed to suppress any mention of Australian Drop Bears. They seem to be worried about the effect on the tourist trade.

    Cheers

    #3775902
    John K
    BPL Member

    @kaptainkriz

    Understand the stats are about large carnivore attacks. That being said, hippos are pretty dangerous and I think top the list for deadly attacks of any animal at around 500 deaths annually.

    #3775909
    LARRY W
    Spectator

    @larry-w

    Roger, sure drop bears are dangerous but everyone knows the chupacabra is truly the stuff of nightmares.

    Seriously though, they did leave out water based predators it seems. Can think of lots of those.

    #3775911
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    I was thinking, “huh, sloth bear. Doesn’t sound so bad.”

    Holy cow….

     

     

    #3775912
    Ethan A.
    BPL Member

    @mountainwalker

    Locale: SF Bay Area & New England

    Why are humans missing from the predator list? They would absolutely dwarf all the others.

    I’m sure I saw a Sloth Bear at the San Diego Zoo, but the plate on the enclosure identified it as a Moon Bear (which I looked up and which is also known as the Asiatic Black Bear). Is a Sloth Bear the same animal?

     

    #3775916
    MJ H
    BPL Member

    @mjh

    A Himalayan black bear is responsible for what I believe is the most recent serious bear attack on a human in Pennsylvania.  It was in a “zoo” at a resort.

    #3775919
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    This map suggests your risks increase greatly when carrying a national parks pass: 

    While this diagram shows how to essentially eliminate all risk:

    #3775921
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    Philip: Neither tigers nor sloth bears are legal to have as pets in Alaska.  I wondered if it’s because they’re deadly to humans since no other large mammalian predators are on the “clean list”:

    https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=pets.exotic#

    But, no, it’s because they could cause mischief if they escape.  Alligators and crocodiles are allowed (and obviously wouldn’t survive the winter).

    #3775931
    obx hiker
    BPL Member

    @obxer

    Hmmm test of critical reading skills:

    critter fatalities USA

    The chart copied above appears to indicate that the second leading wild critter killer of humans in the USA and Mexico; leading brown bears is……….. Coyotes??  Coyote America indeed.

    Oh now reading more carefully I see that is the graph of attacks. By ‘large’ predators. Even if the size is based on the length of their furry hair which makes them apparently resemble Cujo in the vision of many. OTOH now they are apparently crossing with timber wolves and domestic dogs (presumably Large domestic dogs) some say the eastern ‘coyote’ is becoming a new breed of coywuffdog. Maybe they can eliminate the Burmese Pythons in La Florida.

     

    #3775956
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    american black bear, not coyote

    those color charts are difficult to interpret

    #3775988
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    The original journal article has charts with better labels:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001946

    David – That must be why I keep forgetting to take my National Parks pass when I go. Can’t be injuries and, um, um, um, old age :-)

    — Rex

    Despite what scientists say, correlation IS causation. Do your own research! 😜

    #3776046
    obx hiker
    BPL Member

    @obxer

    Thanks Rex: Noted the above linked report has a section titled ” Main Attack Patterns” . The whole report worthy of the small relative time for careful reading imho.

    Coyotes are Second after American Black Bears and it’s attacks not fatalities.

    #3776052
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    ohhh…  I could see how there are many coyote attacks

    I hear them a lot but don’t see them very often.  Except in the city.

    #3776056
    DWR D
    BPL Member

    @dwr-2

    well… er… that category ‘predatory unprovoked’ could be a bit subjective and ‘point of view’ dependent… I don’t imagine they got the bear’s side of the story :)))

    #3776064
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    I don’t see the value of this chart or the report without considering the total numbers of people in these wildlife areas, as well as the other causes of morbidity and mortality. What is the purpose of knowing this? To rally for wildlife elimination? I wish all “studies” had to state the reason for doing the study.

    Let’s talk insect stings and car accidents and mass shootings, if you want to worry about real threats. In 2020, America had 19,384 gun murders (twice that many gun deaths if you count in accidents and suicides). I wrote to my senator to ask how he was going to prevent more mass shootings and his response was that he will do whatever it takes to uphold the 2nd amendment and ensure that every American has the right to own as many of whatever kind of weapons they want. It’s a death cult.

    Bring on the bears! They’re nicer.

    #3776068
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    One of my responses to the whole “Can any handgun (.357, .44, 10mm) suffice for bear protection versus a 12-gauge with slugs or a .300 Win Mag or larger rifle?” debate, is to instead carry a breath analyzer.  On the logic that while Alaska averages 1/2 a human fatality from bears annually, we also have 37 drunk driving deaths, so you’re 74 times more likely to die from drunk driving/drivers than from Yogi.

    #3776072
    Monte Masterson
    BPL Member

    @septimius

    Locale: Southern Indiana

    The study did say “terrestrial” carnivores and I assume that is to include only mammals because crocodiles kill far more people annually (approx 1000) than any other apex predator. Of course speaking of reptiles vipers such as the cobra, Russel’s viper, Black Mamba, etc kill on average around 110,000 per year.

    #3776083
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    riffing on David’s diagrams which I just noticed, terrestrial means they’re on earth, not Mars or Venus

    #3776153
    obx hiker
    BPL Member

    @obxer

    Then there’s spiders. They’re everywhere except the Polar regions and above 6700 meters on Everest for example but still live at greater elevation than any other ‘creature’

    There’s also meteorites to consider.

    #3776158
    BlackHatGuy
    Spectator

    @sleeping

    Locale: The Cascades

    “crocodiles kill far more people annually (approx 1000) than any other apex predator.”

    But they’re so cuddly!

    🤗 from aww

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