Detachable wood stove boot/jack?

[monkey]

I just had this idea but not sure if there are any downsides to it. Traditionally people sew in stove boots (made of fire proof fabric). This is then surrounded with a velcro on the outside, to which a silnylon patch can be attached for those times when the stove is not in use (so it will protect the tent from rain/snow).

The downside to this approach is that during summer when the stove is not needed you end up carrying the extra weight of the stove boot (about 3oz).

So I was thinking, what if instead one makes the stove boot detachable? The tent will have a cutout surrounded by velcro, to which either the stove boot, or the silnylon patch could be attached. Then for those summer trips one would be able to leave the stove boot at home.

What do you think, could there be any difficulties with this approach?

 

 

[David Thomas]

I agree that doing the reverse – make the boot removable and have slightly larger nylon cover – is a lighter weight solution. Slight downsides are that a little more Velcro would be used which is a bit more weight, and also a longer seam is used that could leak / seep some water.

If the patch (and therefore the stove chimney jack as well) were affixed like a shingle, that seam-length downside would mostly be eliminated. The patch could slip UNDER the tent fabric on the uphill side and OVER the tent fabric on the downhill side. Then, like shingles on a roof, water would flow over each joint onto the next material.

[spelt with a t]

It’s not exactly you’ve proposed, but I’ve wondered if the Seek Outside LBO vestibule could be rigged to work with a Duomid.

[Anonymous]

That’s how my ex-tent, the Seek Outside Tipi worked, you could completely detach the stove booty piece and put on the rain/venting piece via velcro on both pieces and velcro on the tent.

Btw, for my new tent, i plan to use a teflon stove oven liner as the stove booty material (rated to 550*F)—it’s much lighter than the material used on the Seek Outside tent i had.  And it’s much less expensive.  While it’s fairly thin, i have a feeling that sewing the velcro on it, might be difficult though.  I’m thinking about lining the inside with some wool to help insulate it a bit more and help the thread stay in better.  Wool can take much higher temps than the teflon without burning.  I’ve had teflon gas poisoning and it was’t fun, (i worked at a plastics factory at one point, and some teflon plastic got stuck in the baking oven as it was coming down and flooded the place with gas)  so that’s partly the motivation for that–i don’t think it will be a problem, but i want to be on the safe side.

[David Thomas]

Silpat baking mats (used instead of greasing the pan) go to 480F, and are waterproof and fiber-reinforced. I can’t imagine a glue working on them, but they’d be easy enough to stitch by hand or on a heavy-duty sewing machine. Readily available for not a lot at cooking supply stores. $15 and up on Amazon. $11 for “Fox Run” brand at Walmart for 10″ x 15″ -ish.

[monkey]

David – for waterproofness I was actually thinking of sewing on a thin silnylon strip to act like a “garage” for the patch (or the stove boot when in use), similar principle to the shingle you describe. Your solution sounds a bit lighter as no garage is needed. But I’m not sure how would one handle the transition of the patch from the inside to the outside, through the tent wall?

Justin – that’s good to know they do it this way! (I bought the stove boot from Ti-goat, and it arrived designed to be sewn in.)

[Jordo _99]

Readily available for not a lot at cooking supply stores. $15 and up on Amazon. $11 for “Fox Run” brand at Walmart for 10″ x 15″ -ish.

Just throwing this out there…but I got a 3-pack of these from Menards for $9 last week. I haven’t used one yet but I’ve compared the material I made my current stove jack out of (sourced from Lite Outdoors) and I think the cheap cooking sheets may actually work better on top of being significantly cheaper.

[monkey]

That’s great stuff about alternative materials. Also an advantage to removable stove boot I guess, that it would be easier to change or update the material if needed.

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