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    Patrick W
    BPL Member

    @idwapiti24

    For 25-45 degrees, dry conditions, what DOB people run as layer over a Brynje poly fishnet?

    Alpha direct? Grid fleece? Merino?

    #3813107
    Terran Terran
    BPL Member

    @terran

    If that’s the low for the day and I’m walking, I’m probably not wearing it. If that’s the high temperature for the day, I’m venting as much as possible. In camp or at home, depending on the wind. Alpha Direct or a light hoody or both.

    #3813114
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    I wear Airmesh over Brynje above freezing. I add AD over the top (as a mid layer) below freezing. Wind layer over all of it.

    But, sure, grid fleece or merino would be fine.

    #3813123
    Haakon R
    BPL Member

    @aico

    DOB? Please educate me.

    I run rather cold, so putting the temperature range aside, if I belive I need a layer over my Brynje the first layer I add would very often be a thin merino shirt or a wind-/rain jacket or both. Depends on the weather. I often bring additional layers for breaks or changes in the weather throughout the day. Typically fuzzy fleece like Thermal pro or similar (AD if I had), or an active insulation shirt/jacket.

    I choose thin merino as my first mid layer for a couple of reasons, that may or may not just exist in my head.
    1. I don’t believe this is supported by any evidence, but I have this idea that the first layer that goes over a fish net shouldn’t be very fuzzy on the inside, as this would more easily “clog” the holes. Yeah, it’s a stretch, but I get hung up on weird ideas. Also I don’t own a proper alpha direct hoody yet, so I haven’t been able to test that combo specifically.

    2. Polypropylene starts to stink very fast in my use, so I like to have a layer to put over it that doesn’t stink as easily – and that would to some degree conceal the odour from the layer below. This is ofc very dependent on what type of activity I’m doing, if I’m likely to encounter social situations etc.

    At the end of the day, there are no hard rules. I just pick what I deem most suitable for the situation.
    For activities that last approx. 15 hours or less, I can optimise for the current conditions and I’m not concerned about weight so I try use more generic and affordable layers that I’m less concerned about wearing out – saving my lighter and more versatile gear for longer trips/activities where weight and changing conditions are more of a concern.

    #3813134
    David D
    BPL Member

    @ddf

    I’ve tried air mesh, Smartwool merino and Lifa over Brynje on quite a few winter day hikes.

    My preference is Lifa.  It was the best at managing sweat while still adding a nice layer of warmth if close fitting to the mesh.

    #3813145
    Patrick W
    BPL Member

    @idwapiti24

    Sorry, DOB, what the heck darn auto correct…was just supposed to say “what do people run”….

    i guess I don’t totally understand the next best layer; should it be another wicking layer or an insulator?  Should it be something that fits lose against the mesh (to allow vapor to move and mesh do it’s thing) or should it fit more snugly against the mesh?

    #3813147
    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    It doesn’t matter. Wear whatever you want.

    Here is a different way to think about it: Brynje is an addon to whatever else you wear. It doesn’t do much on its own — It keeps whatever else you wear off of your skin. That makes your clothing a bit dryer and warmer.

    This is true no matter what you wear over the mesh.

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