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    Nick Smolinske
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    @smo

    Locale: Rogue Panda Designs

    So I finished the trip report of the Grand Canyon hike that I took over the holidays this year.  Here’s a teaser photo.  You can read the whole trip report here.

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    Ralph Burgess
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    @ralphbge

    Glad to see that you’re back safely – thanks for the great trip report.

    I had such a good trip there last year that I’m heading back that way again in a couple of months.  You’ve shown some interesting options for route variants.  It’s pleasing that there’s a viable route all the way from South Canyon to Nankoweap;  likewise the route you took into Unkar – the Juno/Rim saddle is daunting.

    My impression was that you took no technical gear at all, right?   Just to lower packs?  I know it’s hard to rate GC scrambling in the usual terms (hence your spicy scale), but would you say any of your route was beyond easy class 4?

    Ralph

     

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    Nick Smolinske
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    @smo

    Locale: Rogue Panda Designs

    Yeah, we used no technical gear, just lowered and/or raised packs.  We brought a 35 foot piece of 1/2″ tubular webbing and it was plenty.

    So there are a couple of places that might be beyond easy class 4 (easy is such a relative term that it’s hard to gauge):

    -Breaking the top Supai band to get to the Point Hansbrough saddle.  But this could be avoided.  I saw a talus slope that broke every layer, but would’ve required about half a mile of contouring in the Supai.   It was before the saddle, so it’s not out of the way, but this section of contouring on the Redwall was easy so we decided to stay there until below the saddle, then head up.

    -Getting up to the Vishnu/Freya saddle.  The crux is pictured (the short chimney).  That one didn’t feel spicy to me at all, but I’m very comfortable with chimneys so it’s a bit hard to gauge.  Also it was low angle, maybe 70 degrees?  The hardest part was going around the chockstone at the top, but there were extremely good holds in the wall on the right for that section.

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    Ralph Burgess
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    @ralphbge

    Thanks – I went over Vishnu/Freya.  From what I recall, I’d describe that as easy class 4, solid holds, minimal exposure.  That’s a good point of reference, that was within my comfort zone, so it sounds like I could manage your whole route ok.

    I can add a couple of data points using Vishnu/Freya as a reference:

    It sounds like you found the easiest route to proceed west from Lava, because the Juno/Rim saddle was the most dangerous part of my hike last year.  Strictly speaking, there’s no obligatory climbing – I think I had a pole in one hand the whole way up.  But it’s just an uncomfortably steep loose slope, really hard to find anything secure.   Still, I’d do it again – the walk up the Chuar Valley is unique, the top of the saddle is such a great spot, and the descent (West side into Unkar) is an easy stroll down.

    On the last leg from Vishnu west to Clear Creek you contoured on the Tonto.  The alternate route that I took goes up the Hall/Wotan saddle to contour atop the Redwall to the Angel/Wotan saddle.   Superb views on top and this is no more difficult that Vishnu/Freya, even factoring in that you’re down-climbing the most difficult part.   The crux is the top of the descent from Angel/Wotan – when you first look down from the saddle it looks ridiculously exposed, but then you see that you can make your way first to a safe alcove and then across to the right, somewhat exposed but all pretty solid.   Class 3, maybe easy class 4, but no worse.

     

     

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