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By The Numbers Quickie: Outdoor Research Foray Ascentshell Jacket–Beware


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    Stephen Seeber
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    @crashedagain

    At some point, I will use up my supply of Shakedry jackets.  I want a waterproof, lightweight, packable, high MVTR jacket to replace it.  The OR Foray Ascentshell jacket was recently on sale, so I purchased one. How could I go wrong with a highly breathable Ascentshell jacket?

    Ascentshell has always been an electrospun membrane, like Polartec Neoshell and The Northface  Futurelight.  This membrane type will have a hydrostatic head of around 10000 mm/wc and MVTR of 3000-3600 grams/24hr/m2.   So, decent waterproofness and excellent breathability.  I have previously measured two Ascentshell jackets, OR Skyward II and OR Motive, with MVTR measurements of 3060 and 3360. This is a good performance for a WPB jacket.

    I have been using the new jacket for skiing and skinning.  It has a good feature set for those activities: Excellent hood, hem-to-bicep pit zips, and Nikwax DWR.

    I decided to test the MVTR.  I measured 1280 grams/24hr/m2. Clearly, this could not be an Ascentshell membrane!

    I did a little online sleuthing and found a product announcement from SBG media dated 1/9/24.  The announcement, among other things, stated the Foray contains a solvent-free TPU hydrophilic membrane.  This type of membrane is consistent with my measurement of poor MVTR.

    I called OR customer service and described my test results of the prior and present Ascentshell jackets.  I stated that the Foray could not be an electrospun membrane.

    The customer service representative confirmed it was not an electrospun membrane and was, in fact, a TPU membrane.

    In my opinion, the product name and description are misleading.  I purchased the jacket because I assumed that since it was called Ascentshell, the jacket contained an electrospun membrane with high MVTR. Their website describes it as “the new standard in breathable, waterproof rain protection.”  I know for sure it is not the new standard in breathability.

    If you are in the market for a highly breathable, waterproof jacket, don’t be misled by OR’s use of the Ascentshell name for the Foray jacket.  You won’t get the breathability performance expected from an electrospun Ascentshell membrane.

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    Bill Budney
    BPL Member

    @billb

    Locale: Central NYS

    Thanks for posting this, Stephen. I was definitely mislead by the use of “AscentShell” in the name. I expected the new Foray to be a candidate for “best in class” rather than a complete dud.

    I’ve been generally happy with Outdoor Research for many years. Some of their stuff is pricey, but I’ve never had anything bad from them. This is definitely different — I hope that it is not a trend.

     

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