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By The Numbers Quickie: Outdoor Research Foray Ascentshell Jacket–Beware
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Bill Budney.
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Feb 4, 2025 at 5:56 pm #3827851
At some point, I will use up my supply of Shakedry jackets. I want a waterproof, lightweight, packable, high MVTR jacket to replace it. The OR Foray Ascentshell jacket was recently on sale, so I purchased one. How could I go wrong with a highly breathable Ascentshell jacket?
Ascentshell has always been an electrospun membrane, like Polartec Neoshell and The Northface Futurelight. This membrane type will have a hydrostatic head of around 10000 mm/wc and MVTR of 3000-3600 grams/24hr/m2. So, decent waterproofness and excellent breathability. I have previously measured two Ascentshell jackets, OR Skyward II and OR Motive, with MVTR measurements of 3060 and 3360. This is a good performance for a WPB jacket.
I have been using the new jacket for skiing and skinning. It has a good feature set for those activities: Excellent hood, hem-to-bicep pit zips, and Nikwax DWR.
I decided to test the MVTR. I measured 1280 grams/24hr/m2. Clearly, this could not be an Ascentshell membrane!
I did a little online sleuthing and found a product announcement from SBG media dated 1/9/24. The announcement, among other things, stated the Foray contains a solvent-free TPU hydrophilic membrane. This type of membrane is consistent with my measurement of poor MVTR.
I called OR customer service and described my test results of the prior and present Ascentshell jackets. I stated that the Foray could not be an electrospun membrane.
The customer service representative confirmed it was not an electrospun membrane and was, in fact, a TPU membrane.
In my opinion, the product name and description are misleading. I purchased the jacket because I assumed that since it was called Ascentshell, the jacket contained an electrospun membrane with high MVTR. Their website describes it as “the new standard in breathable, waterproof rain protection.” I know for sure it is not the new standard in breathability.
If you are in the market for a highly breathable, waterproof jacket, don’t be misled by OR’s use of the Ascentshell name for the Foray jacket. You won’t get the breathability performance expected from an electrospun Ascentshell membrane.
Feb 5, 2025 at 11:35 am #3827914Thanks for posting this, Stephen. I was definitely mislead by the use of “AscentShell” in the name. I expected the new Foray to be a candidate for “best in class” rather than a complete dud.
I’ve been generally happy with Outdoor Research for many years. Some of their stuff is pricey, but I’ve never had anything bad from them. This is definitely different — I hope that it is not a trend.
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