Who Makes All the Gas Canisters in the World?

[jimmer ultralight]

From what Roger sayid,the valves are laquered..Therefore.Im sure the beancounters at Coleman dont want to spend the extra 2 cents for a cap..

The really shocking thing is the PRICE of the freakin things. The Colemans are $4.95 here in the central US..

I wonder what the cannister prices are in Anchorage?

[Roger Caffin]

> interesting that the Coleman canisters don't have caps…
Actually, the Coleman canisters DO come with caps.
But some utterly stupid suppliers carefully take all the 'shipping caps' off the canisters before delivering them to the shops!!!! Yes, I have seen this before, and no, the shop help had no idea that the caps should stay on the canisters.

mutter mutter mutter … hopeless cretins …

What do you think keeps dirt and moisture out of the Lindal valve, for heavens sake???

Mutter mutter. Idiot yobboes.

Maybe the extra cost for the Coleman ones is for the labour in removing the plastic protection caps ???

Cheers

[Roger Caffin]

> From what Roger sayid,the valves are laquered..
No. The Campingaz canisters have laquered valves, but not the Coleman ones.

Cheers

[jimmer ultralight]

Well then, Coleman is just being cheap for no good reason at all.

[Roger Caffin]

> Coleman is just being cheap for no good reason at all.
Hardly. Decreased mfr costs are always a 'good' reason. Sadly.

Cheers

[Bob Gross]

Next thing we know, we will see Coleman doing all of their stove manufacturing in Australia because of the cheap labor there.

–B.G.–

[Jerry Adams]

maybe it wasn't Coleman, but the shelf stocker that threw away the caps

[Roger Caffin]

> maybe it wasn't Coleman, but the shelf stocker that threw away the caps
OK, I do not KNOW who, but I am pretty sure it was NOT Coleman.
Since the Brunton canisters in the photo still had caps on, I don't think it was the shop staff.
I was told in one shop that it was the local brand distributor who was doing it.

Cheers

[Jerry Adams]

Burton canisters stocked by different shelf stocker?

It's Burton, not Brunton by the way

I thought maybe they were cheap knock-offs. Name slightly different than Brunton hoping that people wouldn't notice. But now I don't think so because there are other Burton products, like I bought this induction cook top. I've used about 10 Burton canisters and they seem to work fine. I don't use inverted though…

[Roger Caffin]

> It's Burton, not Brunton by the way
Good lord – I have never heard of Burton. Oh well, what's in a layer of paint on the outside anyhow?
Ah – but where are the Burton canisters FILLED?

Cheers

[jimmer ultralight]

Look at the pic in the second post on this thread. The black Burton cannisters are the same as every other brand.

Burton sells a line of Butane and electric induction tableside stoves here in the US.
There only foray into Camping stoves was a ponderius,8 oz butane burner that I think is discontinued and the 220g cannisters seen here.

Since their stove was no longer available,I thought the cannistets might be as well,which is why I asked about their curfent availabilty..

[Franco Darioli]

It's Max Burton, part of Aervoe Industries.
I came across the brand some time ago looking for Induction cook tops ( a mate has one from another brand)

[Jerry Adams]

I have a Max Burton induction cook top for my RV. Works really good. Amazon.com.

Gas stoves are supposed to be the best, because they react more quickly. But I don't like them because they produce carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, water vapor, and can catch things on fire.

An induction cook top reacts even faster, because the heat is applied directly to the pan. It takes some getting used to though. Like sometimes I rely on the residual heat to finish cooking something, but when you turn off the induction cook top it's instant.

I've also seen Max Burton induction cook tops at Home Town Buffet (I'm embarrased to admit I ever go there). They get a huge amount of use, so they must be reliable. But those had analog control knobs rather than the digital that I have.

[Hikin’ Jim]

In all the times I have seen Coleman threaded canisters, I have never seen even one threaded Coleman canister with a cap, no matter the store. On the other hand, PowerMax canisters always had caps.

I've always assumed that Coleman just didn't put caps on their threaded canisters. I typically don't buy Coleman brand because it's usually more expensive than other brands, sometimes by several dollars!

The one exception was WalMart which had 8 oz Coleman canisters for $4.00. I just used to bring a cap off another canister from home and pop it on the Coleman to protect the threads. Walmart has now switched to Primus brand and their prices are no better than any of the other shops around here.

Big Five Sporting Goods sells Primus brand for $0.50/oz which is a very good value, BUT you can only get that price if you buy the 16 oz size.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving
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[Roger Caffin]

All my Coleman canisters have had caps on them.

Cheers

[jimmer ultralight]

I have never seen a Coleman 220g Cannister with a cap on it.

It COULD BE that Coleman-US gets the cannisters in bulk and and has decided they cannot insure the caps will stsy on the entire distribution chain to retailers,so they are either omimted when being shipped from France or being removed before being shipped to US retailers..?

I guess I can see the point if their aim is product consistency on the shelves. I have also seen enough dented Coleman cannisters on shelves to know they don't get babied during shipment..

[Roger Caffin]

> I have also seen enough dented Coleman cannisters on shelves to know they don't get
> babied during shipment.
Hum … the carrier should be reported to the DoT. Not good.

Cheers

[jimmer ultralight]

They were dented so badly I refused to buy them. Given how Walmart manages its stores these days, it could have very easily happened in their system.

Last year, when I was picking up some IMUSA mugs at WM, I walked by a shelf in their housewares dept. with three large 10qt IMUSA Aluminum cookpots that had their sides bashed in..BIG DENTS.

About 3 days later I walked by the same shelf, and lo and behold, those same FUBARd pots were still there!

The head manager of the store just happened to be walking by and I politely showed him tbe pots and asked him WHY after three days of employees walking by those shelves ,the OBVIOUSLY damaged pots were still there? I asked if he thought anyone would REALLY want to buy them in that condition? He just shrugged and I told him he should be ashamed of himself.

The guy probably makes well over $100,000 per year and cannot even be bothered to tell his crew NOT to leave damaged goods on display.
Quite a sad joke..

[Brad Clarke]

I have been using MSR canisters since they seem to have the best (at least here) isobutane/propane ratio.

I'm fairly new to canister stoves and never saw what the previous canisters looked like.

Last fall I found some isobutane/propane canisters marketed under the North 49 brand (World Famous Sales Canada).

I picked up a canister just to try out, since it was a bit cheaper than the MSR canisters can be had locally.

The shape is different than all of the current canisters from the big names available here (MSR, Optimus, Primus, Snow Peak, and Jetboil):

The cap is also different:

A few weeks ago I found some canisters at my local outdoors store being sold under the Martin brand (Martin is the name which Quebec based Bismar sell their various stoves products under).

These canisters also have the same shape as the North 49 canisters.

The canisters are made in Korea, and contain 227g of fuel; the same as MSR canisters.

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