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Oct 14, 2014 at 5:07 pm #2141609
"Plasticizers" , or the chemicals that FORMERLY were given off from drinking containers do not exist in current dinnerware and plastic containers sold in the US, the EU and other developed nations.
Bob Gross -> Yer right about plastic cups and bowls being better than heavier Ti for eating and drinking. I've long contended that unless Ti is absolutely needed to do double duty for cooking and eating/drinking it's better to cook with anodized or ceramic coated aluminum and eat/drink with modern plastic vessels – and much more conveniant too.
Oct 14, 2014 at 5:28 pm #2141616" Bob Gross -> Yer right about plastic cups and bowls being better than heavier Ti for eating and drinking. I've long contended that unless Ti is absolutely needed to do double duty for cooking and eating/drinking it's better to cook with anodized or ceramic coated aluminum and eat/drink with modern plastic vessels – and much more conveniant too. "
Eric, where did you get these words, and whom were you quoting?
–B.G.–
Oct 14, 2014 at 8:30 pm #2141679I don't use plastic either. I'm pretty sure phthalate leaching is already taking it's toll on my future offspring from all the foods I eat stored in plastic, but that's not really my motivation for not using plastic.
I have completely stopped using plastic for liquids. I buy paper cartons of milk and juice, I drink beer from glass bottles, and I replace soda with water from my own metal bottle. Why? Because plastic is bad for the planet.
And being good to my planet makes me feel good. Doesn't make an appreciable difference to anyone but me.
+1 to everyone re-using food containers before they hit the landfill.
+2 to everyone avoiding plastics altogether by using metal containers.Also, I kind of liken it to the experience of eating a real cheeseburger, cooked on a grill, with fresh veggies and a toasted bun vs. the experience of eating a big mac. The metal containers just feel a little more luxurious to me. I'm not an ANIMAL, I can afford a set of fine UL china.
Oct 14, 2014 at 8:42 pm #2141681>>> paper cartons of milk and juice<<<
Hmm… aren't those coated with plastic?
>>>>>>>>Paper, plastic and aluminum are the three materials layered together to make cartons. A typical shelf-stable carton averages 74 percent paper, 22 percent plastic and 4 percent aluminum. The refrigerated cartons skip the aluminum and usually stick to an 80 percent paper, 20 percent plastic combo.<<<<<<<<<<<<
http://www.earth911.com/news/recycling-mystery-milk-and-juice-cartons/
Feel as good as you want… you're still drinking from plastic.
Oct 14, 2014 at 8:47 pm #2141684Everyone knows the stereotype of the "extreme left" hippy dippy vegan pro-choice anarchist that refuses to touch a plastic fork because of the chemicals Monsanto put into the plastic to brainwash us into killing honeybees.
Everyone knows this stereotype because when someone says "I don't want to use plastic" it ignites a vitriol that seems out of place in people in this very thread. I don't think I've ever once seen Roger Caffin "troll" anyone. If anything, he's often the antithesis, and his calm response is a good example of this non-confrontational attitude.
And yet, he did pretty much call out the OP for being a plastic-fearing liberal.
I sometimes consider judging people who are very obviously in a camp that makes no logical sense to me. It's easy. If I were to cast judgement on someone doing something "silly" like avoiding all animal products or plastics to their own daily mental anguish, I'd be in the majority. But then I look at my life, and all the ways I do things that others consider "ridiculous." There are individuals in my family who just simply CANNOT COMPREHEND that I'd ride my bike in the road, with traffic. I commute 100 miles a week, and they see it as either a suicide attempt, or a rejection of beautiful, flawless vehicle infrastructure (may it live forever).
Do I like being judged like this? God, no. It's so annoying. I just want to ride my bike and be happy, but there are others who cannot help themselves but to impose their beliefs on me. We all have something like this, something others judge us for. Perhaps its wild camping, perhaps 4-wheeling in the woods, or maybe its something like using metal instead of plastic.
Still with me?
Don't judge other people for rejecting plastic. Rejection and judgement like that is a poisonous thought process in which a "holier than thou" attitude prevents you from seeing the real joy you'd feel if you never concerned yourself with the "why" in another person's lifestyle. Let others do as they will, and you'll find the same courtesy often extended to you when you break the false mold of "normal."
-Max
Oct 14, 2014 at 8:49 pm #2141687Calling time of death- this thread now showing asystole in three leads.
Hope the OP found a container to eat out of…
Oct 14, 2014 at 9:08 pm #2141696> he did pretty much call out the OP for being a plastic-fearing liberal.
Who, me? Really? Or was it someone else? I dunno.
I just pointed out that my GSI plastic mug is lighter than a Ti one.> Do I like being judged like this?
If someone agrees with me, they are obviously smart people.
If someone disagrees with me, they are obviously poor deluded souls.
So where's the problem?
:-)Cheers
(ducks)Oct 14, 2014 at 9:22 pm #2141703I think plasticizers (both the old ones and the new ones that are supposed to be safer) pollute the "precious bodily fluids" of Americans. It's a communist conspiracy.
Oct 14, 2014 at 9:25 pm #2141704"If someone agrees with me, they are obviously smart people.
If someone disagrees with me, they are obviously poor deluded souls.
So where's the problem?"(standing ovation)
Bravo sir! Bravo!
Oct 14, 2014 at 11:14 pm #2141725Does anyone know of a good silicon cup that will fit inside my SP 450? Surely we can agree that is progressive solutioni and doubles as a hot pot picker-upper Ah…forget it…he can carry his own cup.
Oct 15, 2014 at 7:03 pm #2141964>Cheers
>(ducks)So Roger, would you rather have a ti mug or a plastic mug thrown at you? lol
Fortunately for Roger this is BPL – not a lot of heavy things to throw.
Oct 15, 2014 at 11:09 pm #2142007> So Roger, would you rather have a ti mug or a plastic mug thrown at you?
Well, good question.I would prefer a Ti mug, because I could catch it and sell it for a whole lot more $$.
Cheers
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