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May 26, 2013 at 12:44 pm #1989919
It was linked to someones profile. Not sure who's it was.
May 29, 2013 at 2:16 am #1990704I put together a SUL gear list as a challenge to myself – it is the second half of this list, starting on page 3:
I was really surprised the first time I realized SUL was in reach, as I take an XL to XXL and extra long in everything and am unwilling to sacrifice a fully enclosed tent, comfy full sized sleeping pad, conservatively rated quilt, down hood and sleeves, hot food, etc. Plus I hike primarily in the Sierra's.
I will be testing this list on an overnight or three this summer. That being said, for regular use I am much more likely to end up adding:
Sawyer Squeeze
1/8" Gossamer Gear Thinlight pad (use under the Exped)
Mountain Hardwear GW anorak (wind shirt)
Arc'teryx Phase SL baselayers/sleep clothes
Extra pair ea. socks & underwear
Polycro groundsheet for longer tripsThis would bring the total weight carried to 10lbs for an overnight, still ridiculously light for a 265lb dude!
May 29, 2013 at 9:38 pm #1991143I have done 2 SUL trips, both in high desert national parks. When I was out there I thought, "wish I had my camera, this CCF pad sucks, I would rather have my montbell pillow than use my arm, this mammut s-lite sure isn't bright….. Etcetera."
I can crank out 20+ miles with ease in the Sierra with 6K elevation change with a sub 10lb base. It was fun to see how much I can not bring, but I have gotten wiser and bring more now. Now I spend my time outfitting friends that join me or are on there own adventures and are interested in lightening up.
Jul 9, 2013 at 6:49 am #2004026Chris,
Excellent point …. although I would argue that SUL is as much a thought process as it is a weight on a spreadsheet …
Using this site, as well as a few other resources, has enabled me to reduce my baseweight from 35 pounds plus to 5.25 …. and 8 if I add back in a LOT of comfort …
That's what the path to SUL means to me … it enables me to be very comfortable in the backcountry and have a Total Packweight of about 20 lbs for a week long hike.
It also pushed me to learn a lot more about living in harmony with nature, how to thrive in the backcountry without dependence on a pack or the gear in the pack, and how to spend my time enjoying my hike/camping rather than fiddling with my gear.
This was a REVELATION for me …. and pushing for SUL enabled me to get that last 5 lbs out of my pack that was unneeded crappppp. Now pack weight is an informed choice for me … I pick my gear, and my baseweight, depending on the conditions of the hike, and still stay well into the ultralight spectrum, even when preparing for adverse conditions.
It has also pushed me to take the long view on fitness, weight, etc. I have had back problems for 25 years, cumminating with three vertabra fused in 2009 …. for me, 5 lbs of packweight is the difference between having fun and agony with every step, however, it is improving over time … something you have to be comfortable with in middle age … you just don't bounce as well at 50 as you did at 20.
Keep it light brother …. and hike on …
Jul 9, 2013 at 2:24 pm #2004195Hi Mark,
and pushing for SUL enabled me to get that last 5 lbs out of my pack that was unneeded crappppp.
Would be interest to know what items you got rid of, or was it more moving to simpler, lighter versions of existing gear. I am interested in reducing pack weight, but more interested in just having less items to pack before a trip and less to manage on a trip.
This thread has made me look again at what I am carrying. Plus now I am doing some Bikepacking trips, which are generally of shorter duration and at lower altitude than my backpacking trips, so I am thinking I could really simplify my set up for those trips. The lack of predictability of New Zealand weather will always be a factor, but on shorter trips this is less of a concern.
Thanks,
J
Jul 10, 2013 at 7:48 am #2004416I thing I did to reduce the number of items in my pack was to start with a blank sheet sitting at my kitchen table away from any gear and make a list of things I needed on my hike. List things like shelter, sleeping bag, etc rather than the specific brand. Then evaluate whether you need these things as items before even looking at the weight of the item.
I found this allowed me to get rid of more stuff because instead of looking at a spreadsheet of what I carry and the weight of the item I was starting from a blank sheet. and secondly you aren't able to say oh its just an ounce so I will add it.
Once you have decided on what type of items you need, then you can go out and find the lightest versions of the items that meet your needs.
This really helped me reduce my first aid kit, cook kit, and misc items. Your list really widdles down to
Stay Warm,
Stay Dry,
Able to eat,
Able to hike,Jul 14, 2013 at 1:01 am #2005807I'm new to the SUL. I want to put together a 5 pound or under, or 2.2kg for those that live in Australia base weight.
My current base weight is between 11 to 13 pounds. After this 5 pound challenge of mine, I wish to get my base weight down no more than 7 to 10 pounds max for winter.
I have an overnight bushwalk planned in the next few weeks of 32km at Cooloola National Park near Rainbow Beach in QLD Australia I want to make this Overnight a challenge for me to see if I can get under the 5 pound (2.2kg) base weight.
New Gossamer Gear Kumo backpack on it's way to me as I type this. Already own a vast aray of Cooking kits, from metho to esbit tablets, beer can pots etc.
Shelter will be a MLD Cuben DuoMid. Plan not to take a sleeping pad, as the plans are to camp on the soft sand behind a sand dune on the beach and use a piece of tyvek sheet to lay on.
Should be fun, Somehow will include the GoPro camera so I can film and do a trip report on my first SUL Bushwalk.
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