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    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    I have been researching and testing hammocks over the last few weeks and I would like to share what I have found. Please bear in mind that this is my myopic view from a newbie's perspective.

    I was researching other equipment on the Web and was checking prices at Campmor.com and I saw a very basic hammock for $15 and bought it on impulse. I had seen occasional posts on hammocks on BPL and references to the HammockForums.net Web site and wanted to try one. The ability to camp in steep, rocky, or wet terrain had its appeal and I never have slept well on the ground. While waiting for the $15 hammock to arrive, I did more research and ordered a Hennessy Expedition Zip model hammock and some suspension hardware.

    I wanted a hammock for day hikes and multi-day trips. As I mentioned, campsite selection is increased. You are off the ground, so steep terrain, low brush, roots, rocks, mud, and even running water can be dealt with. All that is needed are two anchor points roughly 6 feet off the ground and 12 to 15 feet apart. Two trees are the typical anchor points, but rocks, cliff faces, posts or other solid anchors can be used with the proper hardware. There are some models that can be used on the ground like a hooped tent or bivy.

    Hammocks can be low impact shelters. Wide web straps have been developed for anchoring to trees without damaging the bark and most setups use 2 to 6 stakes. The ground is only disturbed by the camper's footprints and a few stakes; the usual compression of soil and plant life is avoided.

    Weather and insect protection can be excellent. Some manufacturers have complete, coordinated systems incorporating insect screens and tarps, or you can build a system from components and select the tarp size you prefer.

    The real appeal for me is the comfort of sleeping in a hammock. Surprisingly, you don't lay in a curve– the sleeper lays diagonally and rather flat and the lower back is well supported. Of course there are no rocks, sicks, or uneven ground to cause discomfort.

    Some of the components overlap with ground-based camping gear. Quilts work very well with hammocks and conventional sleeping bags can be used. Sleeping pads can be used, but there are hammock-specific systems for insulation. Tarps are used extensively, with cat-cut models being on the top of the list, with a range of sizes and the same fabrics you are used to seeing with ultralight backpacking– PU coated, silnylon, spinnaker cloth, and Cuben fiber tarps are all well represented and the same strengths and limitations exist. Some of the hammocks are an asymmetrical design so the tarps for them may look a little different. The larger cat-cut tarps are in the 10'x12' range and can be used for conventional ground pitches.

    The bottom insulation systems are mostly made from the same materials you are familiar with in ground camping. Some hammocks have a double bottom and a pad can be used between the layers. Other systems use quilts with down or polyester fill and have all the same issues you are used to with quilts and sleeping bags. It was a surprise that hammocks need a fair amount of insulation on the bottom. You are up off the cold wet ground, but there is still a lot of convection loss to the air and most hammock bodies use breathable fabrics. As with ground camping, any insulation between you and the hammock body will be compressed and lose its value, so some sort of additional insulation is needed when temperatures are below 70F. Condensation and vapor barrier techniques are much the same as with ground camping.

    You can buy hammocks as a complete, coordinated system or purchase separate components. The coordinated systems can be used with other components and customized to the user's needs. Weight issues are much the same as your ground-based gear. Multiple use, high-performance materials, and minimalist designs all come into the picture. There are bare-bones hammocks that run 7 ounces and complete systems getting into the 4-5 pound range.

    Examples of coordinated systems are brands like Hennessy or Clark hammocks. They come with hammock body, a suspension system to attach it to the trees, a tarp, and extra covers and insulation accessories. Other manufactures offer components and you can mix items to make your own system. You can buy suspension hardware, a hammock body with or without an integrated insect net, separate insect nets, tarps, topside quilts, and bottom insulation.

    User weight is an issue with hammock systems. Fabric weight, construction, and suspension systems all factor into the total capacity of the hammock. There is a range of sizes available to suit the weight and height of the user. Weight limits run roughly 200 to 300 pounds with the majority being in the 225 to 250 pound range. You will see hammocks with light fabrics and basic suspensions given the same capacity as ones with much heavier fabrics and obviously more robust suspension. My guess is it more legal than scientific. Caveat emptor! The rule with hammock users is "don't 'hang' farther than you want to fall" — or what you don't want to fall on. Most setups are at chair height, which aids getting in and out of the hammock and using the hammock as a lounge chair. Most users frown on rigging in high places. You can fall out of a hammock in your sleep, but it is usually difficult and rare. Big wall climbers use hammocks and remain in their harness while sleeping.

    Hammock bodies are made from nylon or polyester fabric and are typically breathable. Some inexpensive (and lightweight) hammocks are made of parachute-like fabric, with some of the high-quality cottage-made examples using 1.2oz to 1.7oz nylon and single or double layers. Some hammocks are a simple rectangle with a channel sewn in each end and gathered with climbing-quality rope or a carabiner. Other methods use gathered fabric with a whipped end– wound with line and tied. It is possible to make a usable hammock by tying a knot in the fabric and tying the support lines below the knot. The sides of the hammock are typically a simple hem. The channels and seams for a gathered end are usually triple- stitched for strength and safety. Those of you who sew shelters, packs and sleeping gear would find it very easy to make a basic hammock. Most hammocks have a banana shape and are anchored at each end. Some manufacturers use an asymmetrical design, with extra fabric for the user's head and feet to allow a more comfortable diagonal position. Laying on a diagonal is flatter and supports the lower back and legs. Bridge hammocks have some sort of spreader bar at the ends and a flat area for the user to sleep; they allow the use of conventional pads and mattresses for insulation.

    For insect protection, some models use integral zippered screens much like a double wall tent; others use a separate bag or sock arrangement with a zippered entry or gathered ends with typical no-seeum mesh.

    The suspension is where the hammock is attached to the tree or other support. Some use a climbing-quality rope that is integrated into the body of the hammock; others use a high-performance line like Amsteel Blue or Dynaglide in a an adjustable loop called a whoopie sling. Web and buckle systems are used too. Most users use a web sling around the tree to attach the main suspension and tied directly or using a climbing carabiner or proprietary hardware.

    Tarps are much like you are used to seeing with conventional shelters. The smaller tarps are used in a diamond pitch; the larger tarps are pitched as an A-frame. Some of the larger tarps have sections that can be closed as doors and some have accessory beak-style doors available. Fabric choices are identical to ground shelters, with silnylon, Cuben, PU-coated and spinnaker cloth versions available. All the strength and weaknesses found in ground tarp fabrics apply to hammock shelters. Flat tarps can be used, but the vast majority offered are catenary cut. Some are attached to the ridge line that is part of the existing hammock system. Most are pitched using lines attached to tie-outs or a separate ridge line. The bottom edges use guy lines and stakes like conventional shelters.

    On the underside, some manufacturers offer a bottom cover or weather shield. They are usually silnylon. There can be condensation issues, as a closed environment is created with the warm sleeper above and layers of insulation between. Hennessy offers their SuperShelter that incorporates a silnylon cover and a shaped open cell foam insulation layer, used along with a space blanket between the hammock bottom and the foam.

    For me, bottom insulation is the dirty little secret of hammock gear. If you think you can buy a hammock with a tarp and use your existing sleeping bag and pad, you are partly wrong. Hammocks are cold when used below 70F– there's just no way around it. Granted, they come to us from tropical cultures, where the cooling is a benefit, but for temperate climates and at altitude they need some help. Pads will work, but they detract from the comfort of laying on the hammock surface and they need some help– a typical 20” wide pad won't cut it. A 24” pad will get by and one that is 66' long (or more), 32”-36” wide at the top and 18” at the foot end is better. Speer Hammocks developed a nylon sleeve for sleeping pads called a Segmented Pad Extender or SPE, that uses a standard 20” wide CCF or self-inflating pad, along with 5"x19" sections of CCF pad in sleeves on each side to insulate your arms and shoulders, which can get cold when the sides of the hammock compress your sleeping bag or quilt.

    A popular bottom insulation system is a quilt that hangs below the hammock on shock cords, called an under quilt or UQ. Construction materials run the same gamut as quilts and sleeping bags, with down or polyester-based fillers and sewn-through or baffle construction. Under quilts can be full-length or partial. Users have used under quilt systems in sub-zero conditions with appropriate topside insulation. One YouTube video shows a user with a system that was warm at minus 26F! Search YouTube for “hammock shug” for a very entertaining and informative series of videos on hammock camping. Shug (like "sugar") really does know his stuff with hammocks and he is quite the clown.

    Another bottom insulation option is a “peapod” that is basically a sleeping bag with openings at both ends and slips completely over the hammock. Some are like a semi-rectangular bag and others have a face opening like a mummy bag and draw closed at the top end.

    Alternative bottom insulation options include the Hennessy foam/space blanket/weather shield option that I mentioned, and an Insultex-based system is offered by Molly Mac Gear.

    On the top side, quilts and sleeping bags are used. It can be a tussle getting into a mummy bag in a hammock and quilts are an easy solution. The same issues exist with bottom insulation compressing as with ground camping. The same fabrics and fillers are used and your ground camping quilt is identical to those offered for hammocks, with an open bottom and a footbox.

    That's what I know so far. I have tested a basic system in my yard in moderate conditions. I slept better than any other night outdoors on the ground. I am still working out bottom insulation options, with the SPE, a Z-rest pad, space blanket and a multiple-use poncho/weather shield. I am using a Hennessy Expedition Zip model hammock system and I have the larger Hennessy Hex tarp for harsher weather. I have modified the Hennessy suspension with whoopie slings, carabiners, and custom 1”x8' polyester webbing tree straps.

    Resources:

    Forums:
    http://hammockforums.net

    Hammock manufacturers:

    Clark Jungle Hammocks :
    http://www.junglehammock.com

    Claytor Hammocks :
    http://www.mosquitohammock.com

    DD Hammocks :
    http://www.ddhammocks.com

    Eagles Nest Hammocks
    http://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com

    Grand Trunk
    http://www.thetravelhammock.com

    Hammock Gear
    http://www.hammockgear.com

    Hennessy Hammocks
    http://www.hennessyhammock.com

    Ticket To The Moon Hammocks
    http://www.ticketothemoon.com

    Speer Hammocks
    http://www.speerhammocks.com

    Trek Light Gear
    http://www.TrekLightGear.com

    Warbonnet Hammocks
    http://www.warbonnetoutdoors.com

    Accessories:

    2Q & ZQ Hammock Specialties (Hennessy Bugnet Zipper Mods)
    http://www.2qzqhammockhanger.com

    Arrowhead Equipment
    http://arrowheadequipment.webs.com

    Jacks-R-Better
    http://www.jacksrbetter.com

    Molly Mac Gear
    http://www.mollymacgear.com

    OES Tarps
    http://www.outdoorequipmentsupplier.com

    Tree to Tree Trail Gear
    http://www.tttrailgear.com

    Whoopie Slings
    http://www.whoopieslings.com

    #1761434
    Thomas Hood
    BPL Member

    @attom

    Holy crap that was a book..lol. just buy a warbonnet and be done with it.

    #1761449
    spelt with a t
    BPL Member

    @spelt

    Locale: Rangeley, ME

    Nice summary. I have a Henessey. I was surprised and pleased at how comfortable it was. If my backyard had more than one tree, I'd have a lot more nights in it by now. The hammockforums folks are insatiable tinkerers! Good for DIY ideas, bad for the wallet.

    8' is long for a tree hugger. You have big trees in your neck of the woods?

    #1761454
    Mike Hensel
    BPL Member

    @mike220

    Locale: Northwest

    Heck, in our neck off the woods we have some of the worlds largest. ONP

    #1761461
    te – wa
    BPL Member

    @mikeinfhaz

    Locale: Phoenix

    nice write up, but you missed a popular vendor ;)

    #1761500
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    mike wrote, "nice write up, but you missed a popular vendor ;)"

    Cut and paste right off the Hammock Forums :) Computers are supposed to save drudgery, not create it!

    #1761503
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Spelt asked, "8' is long for a tree hugger. You have big trees in your neck of the woods?"

    Other than the redwoods, the biggest :) West slope of the Washington Cascades and the Olympics. It's easier to make the straps smaller than larger! Long straps can extend the slings when needed too. A 1"x8' polyester strap is only 1.9oz,

    #1761758
    Paul Gibson
    Member

    @pgibson

    Locale: SW Idaho

    Dale, great job putting all that together. For some folks the change to a hammock can have a sharp learning curve. Info like this that condenses and outlines the basics helps. I would hope you would post this at HF if you haven't as it would be a good intro sickie.

    And Te-Wa's quilts are definitely worth mentioning. I finally got a chance to see a set last month and the workmanship is meticulous. I make this stuff and would have no qualms about having some Te-Wa quilts in the gear pile. :)

    #1761770
    BER —
    BPL Member

    @ber

    Locale: Wisconsin

    nm. Missed them on your list but now I see them. Wish you could delete your posts! Stupid software.

    #1762063
    Alanna M
    BPL Member

    @muledog19

    Locale: Upper Peninsula of Michigan

    I've been going through the ground to hammock process myself and I also have found the underside insulation issue the trickiest to deal with. Also, hammocks are a great way to get into sewing and DIY gear. They mostly require a lot of straight stitch hem work, which is a great baseline for other projects. I didn't sew at all up until about a month ago. Now I'm on my 4th hammock and 3rd bug-net and I'm about to start a silnylon cat-cut tarp. I'm in my 30s and I can't explain how happy my mom is to have me dropping by to use her sewing machine! She used to try to get me to sew dresses and stuff as a kid, which was a completely fruitless effort. I was way too much of a tomboy to pay any attention. And talk about comfort on the trail… I've even had my 35 pound dog in the hammock with me and slept great. Although there is a learning curve. I learned how to sleep/live in a hammock about 10 years ago in the Peace Corps. I can't believe I never thought about taking one backpacking until recently! Like Dale said, sleep on the diagonal!

    #1762073
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Thanks!

    It was interesting getting on the diagonal the first time. You are fiddling with getting the right amount of slack in the hammock, gingerly climbing in and hearing your new suspension creak a little, letting your full weight come down on it, swinging your feet up into the hammock and stretching out, not sure how stable it will be. That leaves you in a banana curve, with your feet high. And then you wiggle a little sideways, getting your head and feet swung about 20-25 degrees and you find yourself laying flat, with your back nicely supported, and it is stable. If you set the hammock for sitting height, you can reach down and push off a bit, letting the hammock rock you gently. You can feel the air cooling your back and you can gaze up into the canopy of branches and leaves above.

    It really does add to the experience of nature. You are comfortable, with no hard ground, rocks, sticks or creepy crawlies, and you are aware of the sun, breezes, and the trees. You can't beat it!

    #1762114
    te – wa
    BPL Member

    @mikeinfhaz

    Locale: Phoenix

    Dale, this was seriously one of the best dissertations on hammocks.. and you are a newbie?! hard to believe! 9.5/10

    and Paul.. you are too kind. thanks man!

    #1762165
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Te-Wa! You make under quilts, right?

    You should see the poncho under cover I designed along with an under quilt made from a space blanket with polyfill and another made from an AMK Thermo Bivy with polyfill.

    Somewhere along the line I need to get a lightweight under quilt. I got a Hennessy Expedition with a PU coated Hex tarp and it is KILLING my pack weight.

    Silnylon poncho in multiple use mode as a hammock under cover or weather shield. It also holds up the bottom insulation.There are shock cords in the hems with toggles and mitten clips to attach it. It has a collar, but no hood. 59"x104", 9.7oz with stuff sack and hardware, 7oz bare bones. Nicely made by Taylor Seigler.
    Combination poncho and under cover

    My "no-sew" space blanket under quilt made with an AMK double HeatSheet and 4oz polyester batting. The current version has one 1/2" batt and is 10.5oz. About 48"x60". The sides are fastened with double-stick tape and the opening end has stick-on Velcro dots. It goes between the main hammock and the silnylon under cover.
    SpaceQuilt Model 1

    I wanted something more durable, so I cooked up a similar version using the original model AMK Thermo Bivy and polyester batting inside. 33"x72", 1.5" loft and 22oz. Bulky and heavy, but warm and you can make one in 15 minutes. The current model AMK Thermo Bivy is 36"x84" and could be hung on any hammock with shock cords. That bivy has been in my gear locker for years!
    SpaceQuilt Mark II

    #1762173
    spelt with a t
    BPL Member

    @spelt

    Locale: Rangeley, ME

    Even the silnylon hex tarp is 15 or 16 oz, I believe. Once I have enough experience to know exactly what I want, I'm saving up for cuben. I love the amount of coverage the larger tarp gives and for winter more coverage is a must for blocking wind, but a whole pound for only half the shelter system is a killer.

    Love the space blanket pad. I plan to patch something together from the reflectix sheets and metallized tape Arrowhead sells. Of course, I plan to DIY a whole UL modular system eventually. ;)

    #1762201
    te – wa
    BPL Member

    @mikeinfhaz

    Locale: Phoenix

    guys, several cuben tarps out now. i have Joe's model since i trusted his work on previous zpacks purchases. tarp is 11×8.8, straight cut (cuben does not stretch remember) and it is very versatile in pitching configurations. here it is over both my wife and my hammocks in "offset a-frame" mode.
    with zing-it guylines and tensioners, 6 ti stakes and stuff sack it is (iirc) 9.1 oz
    for having NO cat cuts, it still pitches pretty tight, and like i said, versatile.

    k

    #1762246
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Zpacks is certainly one brand on my radar. http://zpacks.com/shelter/hammock_tarps.shtml

    BTW, MLD makes cat-cut Cuben tarps. It's in the cut, although the stretch of other fabrics creates some qualities too. http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=132

    Oware does too, but not the big ones for hammocks: http://shop.bivysack.com/product.sc?productId=14&categoryId=-1

    Hammockgear.com offers a cat cut Cuben tarp with doors ($309). http://www.hammockgear.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22&products_id=21

    #1762269
    BER —
    BPL Member

    @ber

    Locale: Wisconsin

    Brian at OES is starting to put out some nice looking cuben tarps as well. They are not listed on his website, last time I looked, and are a custom item by request.

    The MLD cuben hammock tarp: The one I had was of excellent quality. It was not cat cut along the edges but pitched very tight. Pics on my HF gallery here:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/album.php?albumid=547.

    #1762273
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    I wonder how much curved bottom and side edges effect the structural strength of a tarp compared with the catenary ridge line? For example, the MacCat and Warbonnet tarps have pronounced curves on all edges. It certainly looks cool and cuts weight, but it cuts coverage too. I understand the strength and wind resistance created, but I don't have the engineering background to get the real advantages of the ridge line vs side/bottom cuts.

    Hammock tarps can be more radical as the real business is happening in the upper half of the tarp while it is happening in the bottom half for ground camping. The Warbonnet The Edge tarp is 126" long on the ridge and 63" on the bottom with a 94" width. On the ground, it would be better to sleep athwart-ships with that design.

    #1762308
    Kevin Babione
    BPL Member

    @kbabione

    Locale: Pennsylvania

    Please include Lawson Equipment when you're looking at Cuben tarps. He builds a hex tarp with the following dimensions:
    – Ridgeline – 11'
    – Width – 9'
    – Bottom Edges – 7'

    He does a small cat cut to help ensure it's a tight pitch and I had him add grommets to the corner tieouts to facilitate holding it up with trekking poles. Here's a photo:

    Lawson Equipment HexaLite Tarp

    It's 10.4 ounces with guylines, the stuffsack, and four 7" Ti stakes.

    #1762347
    te – wa
    BPL Member

    @mikeinfhaz

    Locale: Phoenix

    keep in mind too, Joe uses the lightest functional material @ .51oz/yd. last i looked, everyone else used .75 or heavier. if you want more durable, then pass on Zpacks. BUT, i feel with care and prayers to Thor that huge pinecones dont come tumbling down, you'll be OK.

    another bonus of Zpacks: you can customize to the gills. want a Black cuben tarp? it comes in .74 weight. consider the coverage of this tarp, the durability of .74, and the color that absorbs more heat (winter camping?) and its a clear winner (ok, its actually a translucent black winner). also, it blocks most of that full moonlight that drives me nuts. lowest price out there, iirc.

    so, maybe i am a label Whore after all. ;)

    #1762424
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Geeze, Kevin is that a greenhouse or a small chapel? {{{{GRIN}}}}}

    With that porch and the swing, you just need a banjo [up Deliverance theme, fade to exit]

    #1762428
    Kevin Babione
    BPL Member

    @kbabione

    Locale: Pennsylvania

    Dale,

    Thanks – it really is as big as it looks. I like to put my poles under one side to hold it up in the direction I'm most interested in watching – usually towards my hiking buddies. It's really nice to have tarp that provides that kind of coverage and sets up so easily.

    We had a couple of huge thunderstorms roll through the night that photo was taken and everything under the tarp stayed dry. I do like to put down (as shown in the photo) a polycro groundsheet under my tarp so that when I get up to answer natures call during the night my socks don't get all wet as I find my Montrails (especially in a mossy place like this one).

    Speaking of which…Have other hammock users noticed that some gremlin moves their hiking shoes to the left or right a foot or more as they sleep? I sit in my hammock, take my boots off and line them up with the laces wide open so I can easily slip into them when I get up. I sleep for a little and then, when I sit up again, my boots are off to the side a foot or so and not where I left them. Dang gremlins!

    PS – Why didn't you start this thread in the Hammocks forum?

    #1762467
    Dale Wambaugh
    BPL Member

    @dwambaugh

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    "PS – Why didn't you start this thread in the Hammocks forum?"

    They have the information there and I wanted to share with my UL buddies. As one person said on HF, "preaching to the choir." Indeed!

    I was kidding— I know that is a typical A-frame hammock tarp size. The coverage is needed with a "bunk" that is 9+ feet long. The diamond-pitched tarps don't give me a lot of foul weather confidence. I have the Hennessy Hex tarp that is about the same size, but it is PU coated and *not* light.

    #1762479
    Miguel Arboleda
    BPL Member

    @butuki

    Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan

    Great writeup, Dale! Made me hanker for hammocks again after quite a number of years giving up on them. I used to make quite a few hammocks back when Ed Speer's book, Hammock Camping first came out and Risk was still active on his MYOG hammock website, and I tried out a lot of different ideas back then. I could never really find the comfort zone in hammocking and so abandoned the idea. However, I've always been intrigued by the concept, especially, as you said, the ability to camp anywhere, even on steep, rocky terrain. Here in Japan a properly designed hammock would help me find camping spots that are often impossible to camp in in the very steep, very tree-covered, rocky terrain here, where ground campsites are often very small and hard to come by.

    I've been a member of the Hammock Forums since it first started, but haven't been active in a long time… since before people like Te-Wa and The Professor joined and became popular. When I stopped by last year to learn about the newer and latest ideas for making hammocks, like whoopee slings, ultralight bridge hammocks, and Amsteel lines, I was so overwhelmed by the sheer amount of information that had accumulated during my absence that I snuck away with my tail between my legs. I haven't a clue how to get started now, or where to sit down and get a very strong base in making my own hammock now.

    I've had an idea for a long time that I would really like to work out. I've been designing it on paper for quite a few years now and even bought some of the materials. Since I do most of my walking above tree line here in Japan, I need a shelter system that can be taken to the ground, but many opportunities exist for stringing a hammock between two points, and with a hammock I'd be able to camp in those difficult areas that often frustrate walkers here, plus, with the torrential rains here, a hammock would get me off the flooded grounds when I can. I'm thinking of making a hammock that is also a bivy, since basically they are the same thing, except one of them is just strung up. The problem is, most of the material that is used for hammocks is not very water resistant, and so the hammock wouldn't function so well as a bivy under a ground pitched tarp. I'm thinking to make the hammock/bivy out of lightweight kite Tyvek or two layers of Momentum, and reinforcing the material for when hanging, by sandwiching long strips of 1.4 nylon along the sides and one along the bottom, unstitched so as not to create a seam ridge. By creating two overlapping top flaps to the hammock I can effectively close the hammock when using it as a bivy and protect my quilt underneath. With this setup I can camp just about anywhere, hung up or on the ground and just use my Jacks R Us Rocky Mountain Sniveller as a serape and underquilt, and carry a narrower top quilt to augment the Sniveller.

    I have no idea whether anyone else has done this, though I've looked everywhere. I'm also completely confused about whoopie slings and all those attachment thingamajiggies. I want to go light, and I'm not sure what people at HF are using these days for their hammocks. All seems so confusing.

    Would the hammockers here have any suggestions (including whose threads I should look at on HF?)

    #1762485
    Kevin Babione
    BPL Member

    @kbabione

    Locale: Pennsylvania

    Miguel,

    I started with a Speer hammock as well – purchased while Ed was still in the hammock business. I was so impressed with the comfort that I bought an overstuffed Peapod from him as well. Then I began to wonder how I could make it lighter.

    The whole concept of the Whoopie Sling took a little time to understand, but once you do it really shows you a much easier way to hang your hammock. I use 7/64" Amsteel whoopie slings that I usually buy from WhoopieSlings.com

    For my straps I carry a 6' and an 8' (in case I have to use one of the few old trees in the PA mountains where I do most of my hiking) and the Marlin Spike Hitch to attach the Whoopie Sling. My toggle for the Marlin Spike Hitch is a small piece of aluminum tube cut from an arrow. It wasn't until I finally understood that the loop end of the Whoopie is held by the Marlin Spike Hitch knot and NOT the toggle that I understood how it worked.

    Professor Hammock (Grizz) has some really good videos on YouTube that are worth watching. Shug's videos are also always entertaining.

    Good luck!

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