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Jul 18, 2011 at 6:21 am #1276856

William Zila
BPL Member

@ultralightwillinn-m
Locale: Albuquerque

What packs are there out there for sul long weekend trips? Theres the zero anything without a 6 week wait ?

Jul 18, 2011 at 7:11 am #1760435

Michael Mathisen
Member

@mathix
Locale: Oregon

GG Murmur, and I think Ron at MLD has some Burn Packs in stock.

Jul 18, 2011 at 7:16 am #1760438

Michael Reagan
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@michaelreagan
Locale: Southern California

+1 on the GG Murmur. I think it's the ideal long weekend pack, offering only what you need and not a thing more. It's like the Smart car of backpacks…

Michael

Jul 18, 2011 at 7:35 am #1760444

Evan McCarthy
BPL Member

@evanrussia-2
Locale: Mid-Atlantic

+1 on the Burn (which could be in stock). The fit is magical (at least for my 5'9"/150 lbs body with the medium).

Jul 18, 2011 at 11:46 am #1760527

tommy d
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@vinovampire

EMS Packable Pack, 9oz, 1500 cu in., $30 (I got one on sale for $21 if I remember correctly)

http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4399091&lmdn=Brand&cp=3677352.11373430.4456715

Jul 18, 2011 at 11:50 am #1760532

tommy d
Member

@vinovampire

Patagonia Lightweight Travel Pack

I don't have one, but I was looking at one the other day in the store.

11.4 oz (as listed, I haven't weighed one), 1,587 cu in., $79

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-lightweight-travel-pack?p=48817-0-247

You could get both of these packs in less than 8 weeks, if you have a trip coming up soon.

best of luck,
v

Jul 18, 2011 at 11:54 am #1760533

Robert Cowman
BPL Member

@rcowman
Locale: Canadian Rockies

North face Verto
Camp Phantom
Seas 2 summit pocket daypack
Hyperlight mountain gear drybag pack
Gossamergear Riksack
REI Flash 18
MEC travel light top load pack

Jul 18, 2011 at 12:08 pm #1760542

William Zila
BPL Member

@ultralightwillinn-m
Locale: Albuquerque

I forgot to mention I would like it under 4ounces I have a TNF verto and I like it but i need something light to go to the whole xul thing

Jul 18, 2011 at 12:25 pm #1760549

Robert Cowman
BPL Member

@rcowman
Locale: Canadian Rockies

HMG drybag pack
Riksack
Sea 2 summit pocket day pack

are all under 4 ounces. The old GG g6 whisper was 4 ounces

Jul 18, 2011 at 4:39 pm #1760612

Jace Mullen
Member

@climberslacker
Locale: Your guess is as good as mine.

I really like how the Zpacks Zero look.

But thats prolly a looooong way off for me.

Jul 18, 2011 at 5:11 pm #1760631

jeff mchenry
Spectator

@jeffm22

Question for you gurus of the extremes of Ultra-Lightness, based upon experience what backpack you would take when a bear canister was required either large or small.

Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 pm #1760643

W I S N E R !
Spectator

@xnomanx

I have a BV450 and a BV500 canister. Given that they weight 2 pounds, 1 ounce and 2 pounds, 9 ounces respectively, if I'm going by the numbers, my SUL/XUL hopes are pretty much dashed. Maybe I could still hit an SUL load with the smaller cannister…but it doesn't fit in my homemade 6 oz. pack. Next smallest pack I have is a Golite Jam, 19 oz. The Jam and small canister would leave me less than 2 pounds of other gear to hit a sub 5 packweight…I suppose it's doable, but I don't bother.

Cans and SUL/XUL don't seem too compatible…

Jul 18, 2011 at 5:27 pm #1760646

Robert Cowman
BPL Member

@rcowman
Locale: Canadian Rockies

Custom pack to hold that canister. probably a cuben style, like a zpacks, or a zimmerman creation could get one in at around 9-11 ounces. you would have cut back on iother features to come in at a low weight.

Jul 18, 2011 at 6:43 pm #1760685

Bob Gross
BPL Member

@b-g-2-2
Locale: Silicon Valley

It depends on how many days long the trip is.

If it is only a few days, my little Bear Boxer (1.6 lb) is pretty compact for a bear canister, and it will easily fit into any 8-oz backpack of 1500 cubic inches.

If it is a longer trip, the solo BearVault 450 (2 lb 1 oz) holds more food. An old sub-1-lb Golite Breeze holds it with ease.

If it is longer still, the larger BearVault 500 (2 lb 9 oz) holds more. The Golite Breeze stills it with ease. However, now we have eaten up a lot of the weight allowance with just two items.

–B.G.–

Jul 18, 2011 at 7:39 pm #1760708

. .
BPL Member

@biointegra
Locale: Puget Sound

Go for the Zero (you'll love it). Tell Joe when you need it by; see what he can do.
Here are the specs for mine:
Zpacks Zero 1400ci Cuben = 2.8 oz.
+ Detachable Sternum Strap = 0.2
+ Removable Waist Belt = 1.2
+ Bungee Accessory Cordage = 0.4

Jul 18, 2011 at 9:37 pm #1760743

Samuel Kau
Spectator

@skau
Locale: Southern California

I can't tell but does the EMS packable pack have a hipbelt?

Jul 19, 2011 at 7:17 am #1760816

tommy d
Member

@vinovampire

The EMS pack doesn't have a hip belt or sternum strap.

Jul 19, 2011 at 7:39 am #1760823

Joey Dawson
Member

@inabag
Locale: Northern VA

I like that EMS pack a lot for the price. Might pick that up. Anyone link to some good instructions on adding a hipbelt to something like that?

Jul 20, 2011 at 7:30 am #1761181

Hendrik Morkel
BPL Member

@skullmonkey
Locale: Finland

LAUFBURSCHE make the huckePÄCKchen, the small version of the huckePACK about which I wrote the review here. 180 gram in cuben, iirc.

Jul 20, 2011 at 4:48 pm #1761356

William Zila
BPL Member

@ultralightwillinn-m
Locale: Albuquerque

Ended up making my own 28 liter main compartment side waterbottle Pockets made the pack body out of grey sil and the bottom and strap reinforcement with 1.9 ounce ripstop final weight 4 ounces

Jul 22, 2011 at 12:13 am #1761901

John Chong
BPL Member

@johnch

Guys, I was looking at the zero, and my fingers are twitching for me to buy it. I was looking at the small size 1,500 cubic inches. At first, I was going to add pockets, but decided that maybe just a back center pocket, or just a side pocket would work. I mainly wanted a pocket for my liter platypus.

For those of you that have used the Golite Ion, MLD Newt, zpacks Zero, or any other rucksack type, was it annoying to get the water from out of the pack each time? And because of this, did you drink less? Any tips or advice? I also use trekking poles, if that makes a difference.

Currently, I use the GG Murmur, and it's a fantastic pack, but I'm looking to downsize a bit more.

Jul 22, 2011 at 5:54 am #1761923

Chris Lucas
Member

@cheme
Locale: SC

I've had a Zero size small out of CT5K.18 for some time now. I elected to get two side pockets but skipped the large front pocket because of the weight penalty associated with it. So far I love it, it is a fantastic pack and I like it significantly better than my Murmur.

Switching out the cord and cord lock that Joe uses for AirCore 1 and a micro cord lock as well as trimming the excess webbing got the weight down to 81 grams (2.86 oz). There is also some extra plastic on the ladder locks which can be trimmed off to save another 0.2 grams. I emailed Joe about using 1/2" grosgrain instead of the thicker webbing that he uses since that would shave another 3.4 grams off the weight of the pack. He is also willing to make the pack from CT3.5K.18 (pretty sure, he didn't seem put off by the idea). That would save a further 9.2 grams pushing the pack weight down to 68 grams (2.4 oz).

Jul 22, 2011 at 9:58 am #1761994

Dave Jenkins
Spectator

@jinx667
Locale: NC

I have a zero x-small (1000cu in) and it weighs 3.5 oz with side pockets, sternum strap, daisy chain. If you have a deadline that is not ridiculous, I am sure he can work with you.

Here is the Zero about half full. I am 5'7", 175.

Jul 22, 2011 at 11:25 am #1762021

John Chong
BPL Member

@johnch

"Switching out the cord and cord lock that Joe uses for AirCore 1 and a micro cord lock as well as trimming the excess webbing got the weight down to 81 grams (2.86 oz)."

the cord being that thin, would it not eventually wear through the fabric?

Jul 22, 2011 at 11:36 am #1762028

Chris Lucas
Member

@cheme
Locale: SC

I don't have a thru hike on it or anything like that but after about 50 miles I see no evidence of extra wear. Given how burly the CT5K.18 is I really doubt that AirCore 1 would be up to that task.
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