Rab Xenon vs. BPL Cocoon Insulated Hoody

[James Connolly]

I'm looking to get a new lightweight synthetic insulated jacket, and wondered if any users has feedback on either of these two jackets?

[CW]

Cocoon Info

Xenon Info

I haven't had the Xenon in my hands so I can't personally compare them. The Cocoon is lighter and at least on paper, a bit warmer.

[joe newton]

James,

I have just posted my initial review of the Xenon on my blog if that helps:

First Look: Rab Xenon on Thunder In The Night

[John Mc]

So it looks like Rab has 60g Primaloft and the BPL jacket has 80g Ryan insulation…….. I would have to say the BPL should be warmer (at some extra weight) if Ryan's material is equal or better than Primaloft.

Joe's review is fantastic. Very detailed information…..

[James holden]

aint that warm … it about the same as a good fleece just at a lighter weight

[joe newton]

I find 60g/m Primaloft warm enough for backpacking in the Norwegian mountains during 'peak' backpacking season. I guess it all comes down to personal metabolic rate and other clothing you may be carrying.

[David Ure]

I the previous version of the Cocoon Hoody and it is plenty warm to 35 degrees with just an UL merino T-shirt.

[James holden]

the thing to keep in mind for most people is that itll take 100g/m to approach the warmth of even the lightest down jackets

ive used the thermawrap and arteryx atom lt … they arent that warm unless you combine it with more clothes

[David Ure]

My experience is that you can have lower synthetic fill in windier conditions – down seems to be an 'over' conductor compared to down. But this is just my experience.

[James Connolly]

Thanks for your comment and input. The review of the Xenon is very useful. Does nayone have any comments on the BPL Hoody?

I know that these jackets aren't going to be as warm as a down jacket. Indeed, I have a Nunatak Skaha which is very warm indeed. However, this is often overkill, and I'm looking for something for my 3 season hiking needs….fleece is just too bulky and heavy.

[Jeremy Platt]

What ever happened to Ryan's new insulation now that nobody is making the BPL hoodies? How much better is it supposed to be than Climashield apex or Primaloft?

[terrance guidetti]

I love my cocoon hoody! Warm to 35 with light baselayer. Warmer than my Montbell ex light down jacket, albeit heavier. Great coat, but unavailable as far as I can tell.

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