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Mar 26, 2022 at 3:58 pm #3744331
Hi! I am looking to get a a floorless one person shelter that is a really good value. I have tarps and bigger shelters. I am looking for something that is lightish, easyish to set up, and uses a trekking pole. Will deal with silnylon but silpoly would be nice. I use a 3 inch mattress and am 6′ 1”. I was looking at the SMD Gatewood cape(20% off $155). I also looked at the lanshan 1(or other cheap options???). Unless I got something with an inner I plan touse my bivy or eventually to stitch together a sylnylon bathtub floor and add mitten hoods to a S2S net. I would like to have enough room with the 3″ mattress to avoid condensation. SMD Deschutes has more SQF, I am wondering if it is longer and worth the extra $$? Might consider a single wall but thought a net or inner would be better for condensation and cheaper. Any other contenders? Anything that comes up frequently on gear swap I should keep my eyes out for? Thanks so much!
Mar 26, 2022 at 4:31 pm #3744335I love my Gatewood Cape!! Highly recommend it. I am 5’10.. And fit comfortably with large/wide pad and my bivy or the Serenity inner net tent. Being 6’1.. It may be little more snug but only way to find out if its really for you is to try it!
Mar 26, 2022 at 4:38 pm #3744336Mar 26, 2022 at 4:40 pm #3744337Mar 26, 2022 at 4:52 pm #3744338Yama Mountain Gear Cirriform Min
Mar 26, 2022 at 4:57 pm #3744339If you look at his production schedule at the bottom of this link you will see that he’s making DCF Mins this week and then silpoly Mins in a couple weeks. Signup for notifications and buy the moment they come out. Gen ships fast. Very high quality craftsmanship and materials. Excellent pattern. Nice details. I like the flexibility of side entry when the weather is nice or front entry when the weather is challenging. Pitch is almost as easy as a square mid and much easier than an octagonal mid. I’m a big fan of this design.
Mar 26, 2022 at 5:15 pm #3744346I appreciate the thoughts! The Gatewood is appealing because I can order it today for $125. The Yama looks great though, for the weight and poly. Though if I am going to $200 and waiting for production I start to think a little more weight and $$ (and luck probably) might make an x-mid a good choice. Decision, decisions…
Mar 26, 2022 at 5:45 pm #3744347<i> </i>I have the Deschutes and the Xmid, and the xmid is absolutely worth the weight if it’s gonna rain. I only carry Deschutes when I’m going super fast and light and slight cha ce if rain and I’m 5’8″. It’s cramped. Xmid without inner is a palace
Tarptent sells the notch fly only…
Mar 26, 2022 at 6:14 pm #3744349I liked the idea of the Gatewood Cape, at 6’2” it proved much too short for me. On a 3” pad my choice was either my feet touched or my head.
Mar 26, 2022 at 8:05 pm #3744357I can get fairly creative with a 9×9 thanks to Papa Hiker vids on YT. That being said, perhaps bend an eye at the MLD Cricket? Still tarpy but nonetheless. Give him a call and see what he says about using the three inch pad. Just some thoughts. ~RL
Mar 26, 2022 at 10:18 pm #3744362Re: https://yamamountaingear.com/products/1p-cirriform-tarp-min-silpoly
A tarp that pitches that far above the the ground is a kite waiting to take off in a blow.
If pitched at ground level, it is a steambath waiting to become a sweat lodge.
It is called ballooning, and it will blow a tarp away.
For those looking only for a tarp to string up when it’s raining, something much lighter will provide a dry place to cook and eat, so long as it is not used in a blow.
For those who want protection in windstorms, without having to get to a sheltered site below timberline, only a few tents on the market will do the job, and waiting times can be months. Why carry the extra weight? For those who trek above timberline where the trekking is best, it is the only way to be sure of staying dry, comfortable, fed, and sometimes alive. Give the SARS people a break from needless rescue missions. Be prepared for the worst when trekking in the high country. You’ll also have the satisfaction that comes with being a hiking pro.
Mar 27, 2022 at 9:24 am #3744377there’s several videos of a cirriform in wind and it’s known for being as stable as a mid. they’re fine for 3 season backpacking and not any more condensation prone than other ul tarps
Mar 27, 2022 at 10:32 am #3744387Sam, I’ve been in serious weather up high with a 1P older Cirriform and it is bomber in heavy weather. No issues at all with snow, rain, wind during 3 season hiking.
Mar 29, 2022 at 8:37 am #3744637Anyone over six feet is going to struggle with a Gate wood, especially on a thicker pad.I’m 6’4″ and tarps are basically all I fit under, without going to a pole tent. I dunno why they can’t produce two sizes of Gatewood, but I suspect the more math-minded folks around here could confirm how much bigger the footprint would have to be to get that extra six inches of usable space.
I used a silpoly cirriform min a few nights this year, courtesy of a buddy, and it had some real pros and some real cons. All three nights were between mid-20s and mid-30s, with no real wind. I’m a tarp-and-ridgeline guy, accustomed to zero condensation, and as such, even the (apparently) mild moisture build-up shocked me. I didn’t see much of a difference leaving the ‘side door’ open all night, either. They’re ridiculously easy to set up, and you need zero knot skills – in Virginia, I’m never far away from a tree or two, but I can really see the peace of mind something like a cirriform would give you out in the open.
Mar 30, 2022 at 2:29 pm #3744764A review of their 2p from Dan Stenziano on YT shows decent results. Not sure if they make the 2P anymore.
Mar 30, 2022 at 6:15 pm #3744801@Gerry V – Did you end up buying the Gatewood Cape on sale?
Mar 30, 2022 at 8:36 pm #3744845I really appreciate everyone’s input and I decided that I am going to hold off , save my pennies , and bide my time for an x-mid 1. I had to work through the desire for instant gratification but especially considering the reports of concern for taller people and thick pads I think I will be happier in the long run. My 5×8 tarp and Shangri la 3 can serve for another season.
Mar 30, 2022 at 8:50 pm #37448475×8 tarp is wonderful!! Nothing more special then laying and sleeping under an open tarp!!
Mar 31, 2022 at 7:13 am #3744883@Gerry V – I have a Gatewood Cape that I’m happy to ship to you to try out at home for a couple of weeks. You could set it up and see how you and your pad fit in it. You’d only be out the cost of returning it to me…
PM me if you’re interested.
Mar 31, 2022 at 1:33 pm #3744918SMD….If you’re listening, we need a slightly larger version. I’m 6′ and mostly happy with the current model, but agree that >6′ and it would be too tight.
Mar 31, 2022 at 4:13 pm #3744938^Steve, I’m thinking that the ‘hem length’ in poncho mode is the limiting factor. If you made the gatewood with even 6″ more of usable space inside, it would increase the overall size of the thing to the point the ends were trailing around your ankles or maybe lower, which for some reason is something I never see in ponchos. Trip hazard? Easier to snag and tear? I dunno, but they tend to end thigh-height or so.
Mar 31, 2022 at 5:06 pm #3744947^Ratatosk, I might be wrong but I would guess most users rarely put the Gatewood in the ‘poncho mode’. A taller individual would raise up the sides a little better than us shorter (<, or = 6′) folk. The few times I needed it as a poncho I also had a shock cord loop (1/16″ dia.) around my waist…to control all the extra fabric. One could also pull up any extra (dragging ?) material and secure it under the waist cord.
No perfect solution, still the Gatewood is my go-to shelter for about 95% of my hikes. The dual-use feature is a nice bonus.
Mar 31, 2022 at 5:16 pm #3744950Steve,
I thought the dual-use was the whole hook! I’ll bow to your experience with it – I’ve never actually owned one. I’ve used a shock cord loop with my poncho plenty of times, but for keeping it closed around the body, rather than adjusting the hem length. Both uses are certainly doable, if you’re willing to grapple with the slipperiness of the sil while you hike. This may be the kiss of death, but I’m happy to note that exposure to BPL is mostly reaffirming my faith in the gear I’ve got, rather than prompting me to buy a whole new suite of stuff; I still like a plain 8×10 tarp most of the time. -R
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