Jun 8, 2010 at 8:58 am #1259911
@sharaldsLocale: Gallatin Range
Download the 2.7 mb PDF file stored atmediafire.com (link will open in new window).Jun 8, 2010 at 9:11 am #1617880
Great stuff. Interesting for me is that many of the shelters, from obviously mainstream manufacturers of the time, are reasonably light compared to today's mainstream offerings. In many cases, lighter! May have something to do with the current lifetime warranties – manufacturers have to build heavier, more durable gear (?).Jun 8, 2010 at 11:47 am #1617928
I want one of those 14 oz Marmot 25 degree down bags for $229…
How is that even possible?Jun 8, 2010 at 12:16 pm #1617938
I have to comment!
That article was the one that got me started into UL backpacking in 1982. I must have been a tiny child at the time.
That download file was strange for me. Every time that I tried to print it, the first three pages would print, and then it blew away my printer spooler. The only way I could get it to print was to keep restarting the printer spooler, and then printing the article two-up. Strange.
–B.G.–Jun 8, 2010 at 5:45 pm #1618045
Wow a blast from the past! I was a sophomore in high school when this came out. Printed it out just fine. A lot of companies not around anymore. When was the last time you had a 7 and 7?Jun 8, 2010 at 6:05 pm #1618059
@kennyhel77Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
I noticed the add tooJun 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm #1618061
Of course you would!Jun 8, 2010 at 6:29 pm #1618076
I especially liked the beginning where Nepalese and Mexicans were discussed. When you visit the Great Wall in China villagers in their 60's attempt to escort you for half a day just hoping for a chance at selling you a book at the end. Watching the loads of pop and water carriers gives you pause. Easily 60-80 lbs.Hardscrabble is barely adequate to describe the things I saw in China. I also think that the first attempts at lightweight gear benefited from a first take on the problems. There was light gear even in the early 70's. And I'll never forget Ray Jardine's discussion of plastic tarps which he was exposed to when he worked as a guide or instructor.Jun 8, 2010 at 7:19 pm #1618099
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
the weights on that gear is the same or lighter than gear that is almost 30years new. its all the features that the brands tell us we need. the blue kazoo on that is 2lbs, now its 3lbs. the tents are in the 4lbs range, now there all 5lbs. imagine if the people who owned all those companies back then didn't sell them off. All the gear might be like that but lighter. but I guess making money from features and add on items was more important than anything else in most cases.Jun 8, 2010 at 7:44 pm #1618114
I confess this is an analogy ,but 20 years ago I plunged into a different but analogous realm with lots of human labor. The audience didn't know what they were buying. Had I continued the next gen would have been the cheapest and easiest. Overtime it is clear that monopolists eventually dominate . Mostly inertia and a failure to challenge the models. But it costs nothing to shake it up.Jun 8, 2010 at 8:14 pm #1618128
anybody know a bit more information on this? season, exact route? it would be cool for someone to do this again.Jun 10, 2010 at 8:43 am #1618616
Who still has gear that is on those lists? I still have my North Face Gold Kazoo. Anybody else?
As an aside, I was working in the outdoor retail business at that time – used to know Fred Williams, had a friend who cut fabric for Moonstone – and the shops I worked in could never sell any quantity of the lighter packs that came out then. Sleeping bags, yes; tents, to some degree; but the light packs just wouldn't move – everybody thought they were too flimsy.Jun 10, 2010 at 9:00 am #1618621
A lot of the gear on those lists was some prototype made specifically for this purpose. So, it is unlikely that you are going to find much of it still floating around.
Immediately after reading that article, I purchased my Feathered Friends Swallow sleeping bag, and it still looks almost like new.
–B.G.–Jun 10, 2010 at 1:06 pm #1618716
That airlift got me thinking…granted its only 42" long…but 11oz for something with a modular feature doesn't seem bad for the materials available at the time…I mean heck…the NeoAir small is what…46" long and about 9 oz…i have no knowledge of the materials integrity but hey….
reminds me of something my uncle used to say. He pretty much specialized in Model A restoration and well vintage customization (not like new crate motors, but say custom parts that were available in say the 50s and 60s). Anyway, he would tell me about other car manufacturers who had air ride, power steering, advanced wiper systems years and years ago but were virtually forgotten about….'Nothing is new under the sun' is what he'd say…Jun 11, 2010 at 4:40 pm #1619150
Bob – Not thinking of the lists for the "Challenge" – I know that stuff was mostly custom, since the guys were in the biz. I meant the lists in the main article, of tents, packs, etc.Jun 12, 2010 at 8:25 am #1619281
Reading this makes me want to grow out a "Magnum" stache :)Jun 12, 2010 at 9:07 am #1619293
A lot of that article read like it could have been written last week. I depth and informative, and intelligent. Too bad they don't adhere to this model anymore.Jun 12, 2010 at 1:03 pm #1619356
Yes, Ken. That article was written back in the day when Backpacker still had its credibility. That was back when I still subscribed.
–B.G.–Jun 12, 2010 at 1:12 pm #1619357
@jdw01776Locale: Southeast Texas
I remember reading that article when it was originally published, and thinking "What a great idea".
Reading it again made me wonder whatever happened to Sierra West?Jun 13, 2010 at 5:18 am #1619537
@rbeardLocale: ATL, Southern Appalachia
time to change mineFeb 19, 2013 at 3:07 pm #1956124
@nzbazzaLocale: New Zealand
I just tried to download the backpacker article from Mediafire, but the article has gone. Google Books has a large number of Backpacker issues but not the July 82 edition.
Could someone please email me a copy of the article.Feb 22, 2013 at 1:54 am #1957315
@bthomasLocale: Mid Atlantic
Or share a working link to download?Feb 22, 2013 at 11:38 am #1957432
I believe that is copyrighted material.
–B.G.–Feb 22, 2013 at 12:11 pm #1957446
@cobbermanLocale: Northern Colorado
Not sure how far back their stock goes or if they reprint but here's the info from backpacker.com
"If you know the exact month and year of the issue you want, call our customer service department at (800) 666-3434 to order it. Back issues cost $7.00 each."Mar 4, 2013 at 1:56 pm #1961348
@bthomasLocale: Mid Atlantic
Apparently Backpacker's available issue for back order only goes back to 2009. Image to try contacting google next.
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