Aug 3, 2013 at 6:11 pm #1306164
I am looking for a new sleeping bag in the 30 degree range and wanted some opinions on the Mont-Bell UL SS, I like the fact that it can stretch and has room considering I am a pretty restless sleeper. Anyone have comments or first hand experience that can chime in?Aug 3, 2013 at 7:13 pm #2012092
I have one. I have used it a couple times. Its mostly for my son to use.
No complaints. I have not used it when pushed to its limits. My son has, but was in a 2P tent that added a few degrees, but had no complaint.
It did seem to take on an "odor" more rapidly that my WM bag. It currently needs a wash, its been used about 20-25 nights, some of them warm enough to be a bit sweaty.
It was what made me notice that the 800 fill doesnt appear to lose loft as easily with humidity as 900 does.Aug 3, 2013 at 7:21 pm #2012096
"Mont-Bell UL SS"
SuperStretch preceded SuperSpiral and was only made for a couple of years.Aug 3, 2013 at 7:43 pm #2012102
The naming on the bags is pretty confusing. I have an U. L. Super Spiral Down Hugger #3. This means it has high grade down (U. L. = 800) spiral cut as well as the stretchy thread. I think it works great. A spiral cut makes a lot of sense. The stretchy thread works really well, and sets it apart from other great bags (FF, Marmot, WM, etc.).Aug 3, 2013 at 7:49 pm #2012103
@rodney_mrukLocale: Northeast Oregon
I have the Montbell Sprial Down #3 which is very similar to the Super Spiral. I love it. It is main bag. Being a big guy, I especially like the stretching ability. It also stays close to the body thereby eliminating air pockets. The nylon material is excellent in its water repelling.
One caveat, if you look closely at the specs, the #3 is rated a 40 degree bag with 30 degree as the limit. I have used it below 30 degrees and been comfortable. But I learned the hard way what clothing I need to wear.
I have used mine at least 100 nights with no loss of down, smell or wear. Well, my hiking partner, my yellow lab named Hunter, tore a hole in it using it as a play toy. He heard about my feelings and has never done that again! I still love him though.
Good luck in your choice,
RodneyAug 3, 2013 at 9:02 pm #2012116
I have owned several of their bags and all have been good to go at the advertised rating for me.
I had a #5 that had no zipper baffle so a cold spot down the side which drove me nuts.
The #3 has an insulated zipper baffle.
The best one of the bunch IMO, which is not made any more, was the #2 SS UL.
It was rated to 25dF and a good bit lighter than the #1 but had a neck baffle and it was warmer than the #3 and a lot of it due to the neck baffle.
Good bags though and very comfortable.Aug 4, 2013 at 2:56 pm #2012295
I purchased one a month or so ago. I love mine and plan on buying one for every family member. I haven't used it below 40* yet. I'm 6'3" with broad shoulders and fit comfortably in this sleeping bag.Aug 4, 2013 at 5:43 pm #2012369
@dipinkLocale: Western Washington
I used to use one, found it to be a bit chilly in the mountains, usually I had to wear my down jacket at night, and once in a while my down pants. I've switched to an EE Rev X 30 degree quilt with overstuff, and have been much warmer. The dimensions of the bag were comfortable, especially since I am a stomach sleeper who tends to have 1 leg bent out to the side, or to be a restless sleeper squirming around.Aug 4, 2013 at 6:36 pm #2012404
keep in mind 2 things
– the old ones were not EN rated … once the en-rated them they added a bit more fill
– women generally need a 10F or so "warmer" bag than men … assuming you are going off the mens rating "lower limit"
;)Aug 5, 2013 at 11:45 am #2012587
Thanks for all of the responses guy, I am not too worried about the temp rating I am usually a warm sleeper and won't be using it much into the shoulder season however when I do I will take the appropriate clothing and I am happy doing that.
I have thought about getting a quilt, just not sure I can make that jump yet.
Now to hopefully find a deal on the bag.Aug 7, 2013 at 11:43 pm #2013512
@rahstinLocale: The Great Land
Comfy and all, but certainly not a 30 degree bag.
I needed a lot of clothes to make it work around 40 degrees. I am a cold, restless side sleeper, and a quilt convert. Take the leap. Its way worth it :)Aug 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm #2013636
I have the UL Super Spiral #3 and the #5. I've found both to be fairly accurate as far as temps go and my wife has been happy as well and she's a cold sleeper. They're also extremely comfortable for big guys like me who toss and turn a lot.Aug 8, 2013 at 1:30 pm #2013657
Okay, Im sold. I am not too worried about temp ratings as I won't be crazy weather. This will be a 3 season bag for the Sierra, I am more worried about comfort and it sounds as if its exactly what I imagined. Thanks — still looking for a deal if anyone knows of anyAug 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm #2013732
Ryan P. MurphyParticipant
I have the UL sprial down #3 from a few years ago (bought in January 2010). Has the same spiral baffles as the super spiral but without the elastication (some stretch from the bias cut and spiral baffles but less than the super spiral). I have well over 300 nights in the #3 plus I have probably 200 nights in a SS -20 expedition bag. I actually prefer the little bit of stretch from the spiral down over the extra crazy stretch from the super spiral. My older #3 does not have a zipper draft tube, simply an uninsulated fabric draft blocker. I find it comfortable down to about 35-40* with thin long sleeve layers. I think the Montbell bags are probably the best value on the market for quality down bags.
One issue I've had, and I wonder if anyone else has had, was with washing the bag with the spiral baffles. I have washed down sleeping bags and jackets around two dozen times without any issues. When I washed the spiral down bag I found the down clumped up MUCH more from the spiral baffles. The ends of the spiral baffles form acute angles which create nice tight little pockets for the down to clump into. When drying the bag I did the usual fluffing and I was never fully able to break up all the clumps because they had been so compressed and twisted around each other in the tight angle of the baffle ends. It was so bad that a few weeks after I washed it I sent it out to Montbell for an unrelated baffle seam repair and they recommended I wash it, obviously thinking the clumping was from body oils. I have never had this problem with any other down bag with more conventional 90* baffle ends. It was enough of an issue that I will not wash the expedition bag myself and will pay to have it professionally cleaned. Has anyone else experienced this issue? I still love the bag and use it regularly but it is a little less warm due to the clumping.Aug 8, 2013 at 7:56 pm #2013767
@breymanLocale: Rocky Mountains
I haven't had the washing issues you've seen, although I tend to hand-wash my sleeping bags.
Another general #1 to the Montbell bags. High quality and a ridiculous amount of room. I recently purchased a WM Alpinlite and compared it directly to my UL SS#1 just to see if I wanted to switch. While I would give a slight edge in quality to WM (I prefer their fabric and zipper) but the room in the Montbell just can't be beat. Stretches when you need it and pulls in when you don't. I often use quilts, but when I switch to bags for various reasons, it's ALWAYS a Montbell bag.
Get one. You'll never regret it.Aug 9, 2013 at 6:14 am #2013841
Ryan I have washed a montbell bag to find tubes that seem less full when finished. If I recall correctly MB has what's called flow gate construction. I personally think it has something to do with this. I think there is a baffle between the top and bottom tubes at the side opposite the zipper that somehow limits flow from top to bottom. In some tubes it seems like the down gets stuck here its also like the down migrates from the top to the bottom or vise versa like you can shake most open tube bags to get the down distributed but it won't come back and you get a less filled tube. I have a love / hate relationship with montbell and their bags. MB's customer service is excellent for some and absolutely sucks for others. My warranty experience with them was horrible I got my way but what a battle. After trying a different brand I bought another UL spiral 3 one of the new en rated bags they now have a much improved draft tube more down and so far pretty evenly distibuted. We will see how it goes.
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