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  • #1297529
    John Donewar
    BPL Member

    @newton

    Locale: Southeastern Texas

    It may just be my sense of smell but my Bleuet solid fuel tablets seem to emit a "fishy" odor even while the individual blister packs remain unopened.

    Does anyone else here notice this "problem"?

    Does it indeed smell like fish to everyone else or is it just me?

    Does it happen with the Esbit and Coghlan's tablets also?

    My concerns are…

    * controlling the odor so that it doesn't permeate through the rest of my gear.
    * controlling the odor so that if it does indeed emit a fishy smell I'm not attracting bears.
    * did I mention I'd like to control the odor? ;-)

    Party On,

    Newton

    #1939614
    Raymond Estrella
    Member

    @rayestrella

    Locale: Northern Minnesota

    Is is the fuel itself. Esbit is the same way.

    #1939617
    John Donewar
    BPL Member

    @newton

    Locale: Southeastern Texas

    So do you use anything to control the odor?

    Do you use OPsak, Ziploc or a container of some kind with a screw on lid?

    Party On,

    Newton

    #1939626
    Gary Dunckel
    BPL Member

    @zia-grill-guy

    Locale: Boulder

    When I buy a new box of Esbit tabs, I remove them from their bubble wrap and I repackage them into 4-packs with a vacuum sealer for (assumed) increased shelf life. Then when I take them hiking, I put the required number of those 4-packs into a pint size Ziplock freezer bag, along with my stove, and a small binder clip to close up the opened pack. Sometimes I'll remember to also include a snack baggie to hold the opened packet, as another layer of odor control. Seems to minimize fishy smells, as the squirrels don't seem to hang around the zip bag much (I'm wondering if they already know that it's some kind of poison, just by the smell…).

    #1939629
    John Donewar
    BPL Member

    @newton

    Locale: Southeastern Texas

    Gary,

    Did the fishy smell ever attract any "nosey" bears?

    Party On,

    Newton

    #1939631
    USA Duane Hall
    BPL Member

    @hikerduane

    Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada

    One of the negatives of that type fuel. Enjoy.:)
    Duane

    #1939644
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    Yes, all of the Esbit-type fuels have a fishy odor, but to different degrees. I leave the cubes in the original foil package, and that is left in the original cardboard box. No special odor protection.

    Bears have sniffed at it, but they seem to know that it is not food.

    Many years ago we used to put mothballs into the top of our food sack hung in the tree. The theory was that the mothball odor would overcome the food odor, so the bears would never go after the food. However, the bears did not understand the theory.

    Bears managed to find a food bag with mothballs, so they ate the food and associated the mothball odor with food. Then the next time that they came around, they smelled the mothballs and that led them right to the food.

    Another theory shot down.

    Black bears are curious, and that suggests some level of intelligence. They have a good memory when it comes to food and the route to get from one food source to another.

    –B.G.–

    #1939656
    Gary Dunckel
    BPL Member

    @zia-grill-guy

    Locale: Boulder

    Naw, Newton. Heck, I've never seen a bear here in Colorado, not even their scat (except in my back yard–they like my apple trees in Sepember, and my lack of fences)). I only use Esbit for quick 24-hour outings, to minimize weight. When I hit the Winds, YNP, or GNP, I use a canister stove and do MH FD meals, to minimize any smells. BG would be your dependable bear source here, as his turf is bear alley.

    #1939664
    Bob Bankhead
    BPL Member

    @wandering_bob

    Locale: Oregon, USA

    I carry my Esbit tablets in their original foil-covered plastic bubble packs, which I place inside an OP sack carried on the outside of my pack. Works every time.

    If I ship tablets to myself along the trail, they are always in an OP sack, even if the package is labelled ORM-D.

    #1939666
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    Besides, in Louisiana, you have a few black bears, but you have more of the dreaded swamp rabbits. Vicious critters! They sneak out of the swamp and attack backpackers carrying Esbit fuel. They just love the fishy smell. They confuse the word "Bleuet" with "beignet."

    –B.G.–

    #1939694
    John Donewar
    BPL Member

    @newton

    Locale: Southeastern Texas

    Hi Bob,

    I don't worry about bears in LA. But my section hikes of the AT are taking me deep into VA next year where I plan to try out my solid fuel system.

    Swamp rabbits are like pets to me. It's those yellow bellied CA marmots that frighten me. LOL

    Party On,

    Newton

    #1939696
    USA Duane Hall
    BPL Member

    @hikerduane

    Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada

    Marmots? That's where a bota bag shaped like a radiator hose, full of anti-freeze comes into play. Throw it to the marmots and run then.:)
    Duane

    #1939725
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    I wrap my Eabit and FireLite tabs in heavy aluminum foil and tape it shut with duct tape. Slowly untape an end to preserve the foil to get them out and then retape.

    This actually works. "Crude but effective."

    #1939735
    Dan Yeruski
    BPL Member

    @zelph

    Locale: www.bplite.com

    John, yes it happens with esbit tablets also.

    #1939751
    michael levi
    Member

    @m-l

    Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles

    I can get over the smell of esbit fuels, it smells but it doesn't smell that bad. I like the ease of use and weight.

    #1939829
    Erik Basil
    BPL Member

    @ebasil

    Locale: Atzlan

    I don't know if the mil-spec "Hexamine" version of Esbit-type fuel is less energy-dense or not, but I bought a LOT of it many years ago and have used it from time to time, primarily as a very successful emergency fuel. It comes in cardboard tube with the round tablets stacked like Life-Savers candies. It has virtually no odor and I can confirm that a set of tablets that had been in my pack for 30 years burned "just fine" and boiled water like they were supposed to.

    My buddy's branded Esbit fuel seemed to cook in about the same time, did have more odor and sooted his pot more than mine did mine.

    #1939871
    John S.
    BPL Member

    @jshann

    Esbit and Bleuet brand solid fuel are both hexamine (methenamine).

    #3623513
    McMick
    BPL Member

    @mcmick

    FYI- It seems that the 4g Esbit tablets don’t smell but the 14g Esbit stink like a bag of dead carp.

     

    #3623578
    Murali C
    BPL Member

    @mchinnak

    When I bought Caldera Keg-GVP stove from traildesigns.com, he placed the Esbit tablets in the following Glad container which seems to do a great job of containing the smell.

    #3623579
    Murali C
    BPL Member

    @mchinnak

    Just curious – most of the parks nowadays seem to ban stoves that do not have an on/off switch – which pretty much bans Esbit/Alcohol stoves…..but, seems like many are still using it? I want to take Esbit on the CT next year – but, fire bans in the summer eliminate this option…..though I feel Esbit is much more safer than Alcohol which could leak on to the ground and cause a fire to spread – while Esbit is solid and will not have such issues.

    What do you all think? Can I use Esbit in CT?

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