Sep 3, 2010 at 10:20 am #1262943
I was wondering if there is another way to pack the Contrail in my backpack. lately i've just been putting it in the stuff sac and shoving it in my pack horizontal. It's fine that way, but a little bulky. any suggestionsSep 3, 2010 at 10:32 am #1642810
@slvravnLocale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
It depends on what type of pack you have. If there are outside pockets you can use those or use the tie down straps (if you have them) to lash it to the top of the pack or even use the top lid of the pack (again, if you have it) to hold it in place.Sep 3, 2010 at 11:02 am #1642822
As above, depending on what outside pockets or straps you have.
To me, it makes a lot more sense packing your tent / shelter outside.
1. Saves a lot of space for other gear — maybe even allowing you to use a smaller pack.
2. When arriving at camp in the rain, you can access and set up your tent without opening up your backpack and exposing its contents to the rain.
3. When striking camp in the rain, you can pack and close up your pack in the safety of your shelter, then put on your rain jacket, take down your tent, attach to the outside of your pack — and you're good to go. Also, no worries about packing a soaking wet and muddy tent inside your pack.
Most UL packs have a single top compression strap. With a relatively small and light load (such as with the Contrail) — you can strap your tent right under.Sep 3, 2010 at 2:10 pm #1642865
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
+ to what Ben said! I don't have a Contrail but do pack my shelter in one of the outside side pockets in my pack, for the same reasons.Sep 3, 2010 at 5:03 pm #1642888
If I am bushwacking, the tent goes in the pack. Otherwise it gets shredded. Obviously much different on groomed trails.Sep 4, 2010 at 8:41 am #1642986
Just as the pack itself can get shredded when truly bushwhacking… but thinking about it, if you were using a UL type backpack and have the tent right on top (strapped under the pack's top compression strap) — it likely will be right behind your back at around shoulder height — a pretty well protected spot actually.
OTOH, if using a full size, traditional backpack where the top extends upward above your head — and totally exposed — then yeah, stick the tent inside to protect it when bushwhacking — or use bottom compression strap so the pack itself will help protect the tent…Sep 4, 2010 at 9:19 am #1642990
My packs are all made of Dyneema Gridstop or Dyneema. They don't get shredded. A silnylon tent hanging on my pack would.
We backpack in very different areas. Obviously.Sep 4, 2010 at 9:45 am #1642991
Kutenay will laugh at your flimsy dyneema gridstop!! You obviously hike only the gentler parts of BC, because the parts where Kutenay hikes, only McHale's and Mystery Ranch packs will do. Wuss. :)Sep 4, 2010 at 10:28 am #1642995
Hey – don't you be dissin' Bog Kute.
I haven't been deemed worthy enough for 1000d Cordura yet. Maybe one day.
; )Oct 26, 2011 at 1:10 am #1795107
does the Contrail fit a 6'1 sleeper in, with a size 12 feet – without wetting my sleeping bag?Oct 26, 2011 at 1:41 am #1795111
I asked the local expert…
Using the standard set up, 6'5" in the fly will be 17" away from the floor.
(the extra 4 " are added to accomodate the sleeping bag)
IF you add the extra rear strut ($5 extra) you than have 19" in the middle because of the extra lift.
BTW, the new world record for setting up the Contrail is 49.75 sec…
new world recordOct 29, 2011 at 5:57 pm #1796492
congrats on the world record. very impressive! watching the video, looks like you could shave off several seconds. I believe you could break 40 seconds.Oct 29, 2011 at 6:22 pm #1796498
I told Henry that for $10k I'll do it in 45 sec.
I have not heard from him since.
FrancoOct 29, 2011 at 7:31 pm #1796511
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
"If I am bushwacking, the tent goes in the pack. Otherwise it gets shredded. Obviously much different on groomed trails."
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