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- May 27, 2020 at 11:03 pm #3649652
I have these poles for several years. Ended up buying them for the whole family. Very satisfied! I do also have LocusGear carbon poles and Fizans way more sturdy. They hold up my shelters (Duplex and Ultamid 4). Survived many hikes in Alps, Israel deserts, Iceland. Other than loosing three poles I had no issues with them. Don’t know what could be a reason to spend much more money on poles! And I have some expensive gear.May 10, 2019 at 8:45 pm #3592346
I was given a reason for why it is impossible for them to fulfill this request. It is because they now have a semi-autonomous packaging system. They even do not install add-ons on packs anymore! They simply pack everything and ship. Imagine ZPacks factory as a high-end fully autonomous facility with robots from Boston Dynamics who assemble each order, pack and send. And all of the products are constantly made 24/7.
Maybe this is an exaggeration, but I can’t understand how semi-autonomous packaging can prevent you from putting cardboard inserts and stickers. Sorry, Joe, I don’t buy this. There are exceptions from rules and I think, that I gave a reasonable explanation to why I need the things done as I said.
Tim, thank you for posting here. I have EE quilt I bought years ago from you. I think that waterfalling this message to your customer reps is a good thing to do. If I was ordering quilts today, I was asking for the same packaging “upgrade”. When we have our packages passing through customs, it sometimes ends in damaged products. Unfortunately, it happened to me twice.May 5, 2019 at 7:20 am #3591698
The mittens look interesting. Very light. Who had experience with this material?Apr 23, 2019 at 1:41 pm #3590022
The interesting thing is how strong it is. This is the weakest point of the whole pole.Apr 23, 2019 at 1:25 pm #3590016
WOW! What a find! I ordered it and will report back. It should fit (length-wise). If this will not work, I’ll go for Ruta Lacura pole.Apr 16, 2019 at 7:15 am #3589013
OMG. I’m shocked!
First, guys, thank you all for the valuable information.
How crappy some products may be! I actually invested, I thought, in a good stove for my family backpacking trips. That’s why I have this 2.5L monster. I wanted to backpack with it the upcoming trek in Iceland where winds are crazy. This was my rationale for buying this stove, normally I use just a Ti-Tri with Evernew 1.3L pot when with wife, or just the imusa mug if I’m solo.
Thank you again, I sent the stove to MSR today.
Now, this puts the Reactor as unreliable. And I have no idea what to do. Should I switch to another stove (holy crap I invested in this junk more than $300! with two pots)? Or should I just toss a Pocket Rocket as a backup?
Greg.Apr 14, 2019 at 3:46 pm #3588737
Well, first, it worked with the local canisters, and there are no MSR canisters here.
I tried several canisters including new ones and neither worked.
Obviously, there is a gas and normally the stove worked with the local canisters, so I don’t suspect the canister.Mar 15, 2019 at 11:58 pm #3583783
Also found some great bag for a side sleeper: jam women’s down sleeping bag
The shape looks awesome. I would buy it for myself if it wasn’t that heavy.
If I compare side-by-side with the BA Anvil Horn (15):
Actually, it’s pretty strange. They both same weight, but in Nemo Jam there is 800 gram 800 FP down and in the BA Anvil Horn there is 650 gram 650 FP down! Still, look at the girths! The BA Anvil Horn is roomier!Mar 15, 2019 at 10:53 pm #3583764
Thank you for your answers!
I’m just thinking if maybe Big Agnes pad+bag combo would work for her. Their pads have full-length sleeves for the pad, so maybe falling from it is impossible?
My wife is short: 5’4″ and not a big woman at less than 130 lbs. Last time we were sleeping in a tent the smallest girl (5y.o.) crawled into her bag. This “phenomenon” led me to think about very wide bag and pad and probably ditch the sleeping system of a girl at all.
Now all members of my family sleep in Sierra Designs Cloud 20 sleeping bags on top of NeoAir XLites. This results in (340+800) * 2 = 2280 gram for mom + girl.
While BA bags are not light (the wide version of, say, Angil is 1400 gram) I’m going to be around same weight anyway.
Does it sound like a viable solution?Mar 15, 2019 at 9:40 pm #3583750
I can’t believe they actually sewed fly to the floor. It’s foolish in a single wall tent. Even in my Duplex when sleeping in humid places its canopy sweats like a runner, but almost no water falls inside. ULTAMID shelters have the same feature I believe. And they missed it here? No way!Mar 15, 2019 at 7:51 am #3583648
I don’t really get it.
- you say that you can’t leave the door open in a light rain – so as with any *mid, correct?
- this tent is not a competitor to Duplex. Say you’re going to a wind-blowing country, so normally you’ll pick a *mid for that purpose. But the drawback is that there is no vestibule where you can drop some wet gear, this tent solves the issue.
- I’m not sure why they didn’t make it with a vent. I asked myself the same question. Same for the condensation collecting on walls and dripping right onto the floor? No way I might be missing something here.
- The design looks great overall IMHO wind-worthiness, usefulness.
- Yes, you can’t cook in it.
- And yes it’s pricey. But look at any mid with mesh and floor and you’ll get how cheap this tent is! :D
GregMar 4, 2019 at 12:27 pm #3581708
She is using a regular pad women versionMar 3, 2019 at 9:09 pm #3581562
All, thank you for your valuable answers.
My concern with the *high* Ultamid is how would this height perform in a wind? I suppose more height => bigger faces => more wind force. The momentum caused by wind is also bigger in higher tents.
Robert thank you for the lengthy post, it is very helpful.
Feb 21, 2019 at 12:16 pm #3579711
- Regarding Khafra when you say that it fits 4 only “touching” each other and all the gear outside – you mean in the vestibule created by smaller (4/5) net? Or outside of the tent?
- HMG Ultamid 4 has half insert, however no 4/5 option.
- What puzzles me more is the inability to measure or check wind resistance. Would Triplex perform better than huge and high Ultamid?
There is a Rab Flashpoint 2 Jacket on massdrop right now ($160 instead of declared $300). Is it any better?Feb 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm #3579569
Matt, thanks for the nice photo! We are also a family of 5. My wife sometimes talks about 2 more, and I promised to think about it after a few years of backpacking (otherwise we will never backpack – the babies are just not built for that. We tried)
Do you have a floor in your Ultamid? From the photo I can’t see.
I see you lashed two hiking poles with some sort of zip ties. Do they come with the shelter? Are they strong enough to withstand a tension of the tent in a wind?
If there is a floor, is there some sort of rugged cup to hold the tip of a pole in place? I believe the hiking pole tip will make a hole in the floor otherwise
In general, do you recommend this shelter? What are the drawbacks you learned from using it?
Thank you!Feb 20, 2019 at 8:51 pm #3579565
Thank you all for the answers. I read through all of them.
Yes, I understand about ventilation-vs-breathability. The Essence jacket wetted at shoulders and I felt uncomfortable cold. I was not sweating at all. I wore underneath Ice Breaker Merino 200 long sleeve base layer, microfleece hoodie (Mountain Hardwear something). Temps were around 2-3 degrees Celsius and there was some wind, not that strong.
Essence jacket does have pit holes (not zips) to facilitate ventilation.
What I think – if the weakest parts of a waterproof jacket are shoulders and head, what if we make it waterproof – non-breathable, for example by applying many strips of sealing tape from inside? Maybe there is such a jacket already? I think a more heavy duty fabric on shoulders will also help with abrasion from the shoulder straps of the pack.Feb 20, 2019 at 8:15 pm #3579557
Wow! thank you so much for so informative and valuable answers.
One thing to consider with the taller pyramids is you can lash 2 trekking poles together and not take along an extra pole.
Actually, it just stroke me. I have a 3 (and 4) section telescopic Fizan hiking poles. What if I share the same section with a smaller diameter and make one big pole out of that? I need to try it.
It is a common mountaineering and ski touring practice to use pyramids as cooking tents, especially when you can dig down into the snow, so that the stove is a very far distance from the walls of the mid.
I’m going to use a tent with a floor. Can I put the canister stove inside a tent on its floor? I have an MSR Reactor stove, so first, there is no flame and second, the “burner” (which is on top of the canister) is far from any fabric that way.
WOW! That tent is a true palace. I have never spent a night in a tent with that huge vestibule. How does a tunnel tent stand against winds?
Since you need to bring two shelters regardless, split the difference and bring one of each, a plex and a mid.
This is exactly what I thought. And I think I’ll go that route. The question is what mid to take? I see three viable options:
HMG Ultamid 4 with inner net
Locus Gear Khafra DCF-B with mesh
Locus Gear Khafra DCF-B with 4/5 mesh
MLD Supermid + net
The Locus Gear Khafra with 4/5 mesh is quite interesting and answers the vestibule-less design of mids:
The size of the floor is 200×250 cm. We are not tall persons (me 165 and I think my wife and grandma are same height), so 200 should suffice. The Kafra Mid is 265×265, leaving 65 cm for the vestibule…Feb 15, 2019 at 7:22 am #3578598
@ Greg and Doug
I do not see why pyramids are identified as no cooking “inside”.
If you do not have a floor or move the floor aside, you can cook inside or even near the door.
If you put 2 or 3 adults into a Supermid, there would be enough room for cooking I would think.
I don’t have any experience with pyramid shelters. All I say here in this thread is only what I think, please correct me if I’m wrong.
In my opinion, there are 2 issues with pulling the floor and cooking inside:
(1) the fabric and mesh will be very close to hot fume of a stove and could be damaged.
(2) maybe there is an issue with ventilation and cooking inside that shelter could be hazardous?Feb 15, 2019 at 7:03 am #3578595
Must it be cuben? Seems like you are really limiting yourself. Its your choice, of course, but it seems like you are ruling out most of the market and it may or may not be for a ‘real’ reason.
It should be very light (I’m already taking a lot of stuff for the kids). And it should be sturdy in winds. So it will not sag when wet.Feb 15, 2019 at 6:58 am #3578590
I’m terribly sorry for the badly formatted original message. I was in a real rush, submitted and ran away.
I tried now to edit but, am I missing something or there is no option to do so?
Franco & Doug, thank you for sorting this out.
Again, I value your feedback on this forum and it was not my intention to throw at you it so badly formatted. My bad.Feb 12, 2019 at 6:07 pm #3578077
Manfred I appreciate very much your quick answer as I’m really THAT close to pull the trigger on Triplex. I did consider Ultamid 4 and since it lacks a ground tube (or any floor) I quickly ignored it. Adding a double inner netting will result in double price in comparison to the triplex. Also having two separated spaces is a drawback in my opinion. However, I will reconsider it, maybe it is still well worth the try. I would be glad to get any insight on this issue.
I have meticulously examined every photo of duplex pitched you have put in this thread. Of course I mentioned the extra guylines. What is the recommended length for guylines in general? Also how hard it was to use stakes in the ground of Iceland? What type of stakes have you used?
I misled you when I wrote that we are going the same route. We will start at Landmannahellir all the way down to Skogar
Thank you so much Manfred! We hiked with the kids for several days in the alps, but this kind of trip we never did. I’m planning it with a bit of hesitation as I’m a bit concerned about the little girl and the brutal winds of Iceland.Feb 10, 2019 at 3:09 pm #3577756
Manfred, we (family 2 adults, three kids 13,10,5) are going to Iceland this summer. We are backpacking same route as yours and hornstrandir. I have a duplex tent, but 0.54 oz material. I think to get triplex for the rest of the family (0.72oz material). Based on your experience, will these tents withstand the winds of Iceland? What was your duplex made of?
Thank you very much.
Greg.Dec 3, 2018 at 12:18 pm #3567139
Wait. aren’t we talking UL here? :D
I was using Exofficio G&G boxers for years and was quite happy. But then I found Odlo Men’s Evolution X-Light Boxer. These are at half the weight of the Exofficio and also were cheaper too! I love them!Nov 18, 2018 at 10:43 pm #3564758
Looks like Joe from ZPacks did it just fine:Nov 17, 2018 at 5:34 pm #3564601
Todd thank you so much for this input!
I’m currently planning to hike the same route as yours and like 1 or 2 weeks of car camping in different areas. For this trip, we are taking all of the rain gear (pants + jackets), WP socks, mittens. fleeces, merino wool thermal base layer (I bought Ice Breaker for all of the kids too.). Beanies and merino wool buffs as well. warm socks.
50mph sounds scary. Have never been in such a wind with Duplex tent. Triplex should handle wind worse I believe.
Anyone saw a ZPacks tent pitched in Iceland?