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- May 26, 2020 at 5:01 am #3649269
Yup. I broke a couple. NY trails are not really well maintained. Being on the narrow side, it is easy too get tangled up in the scrub. Most streams are crossable without any poles, even in high water conditions. I can always use a found stick as a crossing pole. Using one pole on long upgradws is a matter of “pumping.” I simply slide the pole forward to my feet and push for each step I take. On downgrades, I have one arm free for immediate balance. Usually heavy duty rocks are the order of the day and at least twice in a climb, I have to use my arms to help pull me up…kind of a half scramble. Besides being lighter, the one pole also works to hold my shelter up. (I designed and built the one shelter around the pole length.) Never use baskets, ‘cept in snowy conditions. If you use two poles, fine. Most people pack up one, simply electing to carry one after a week in the back country.May 23, 2020 at 9:34 am #3648776
Down has the ability to “adjust” to various temps.
As temps get colder, the air and surroundings get dryer. When you are cool you sweat a lot less (sans insensible perspiration.) This actually helps most down get a dryer, allowing it to loft a bit higher…more loft usually means greater warmth. Note that it can reach a point of condensing your own body sweat into the down and freezing up, but, I would suggest you wouldn’t use a 40F quilt in those conditions. 20F/-7C is about where this can start.
As temps get warmer, your body will sweat more. Down can pick up this additional moisture as a slight softening of the down plumes, hence reduced loft when added into the millions of plumes in your quilt. Of course, you can always kick a leg out, only cover half of you, or, simply use it as a warmer bed.
Usually the choice between 20F and 30F quilts is more the style of camping you do. As a UL hiker, I use a down jacket for cool mornings and evenings (roughly 6-8 hours.) I also use it for sleeping letting me add about 10F to a quilt’s performance. It is somewhat lighter to simply not carry a jacket and put extra down into your quilt.
Of course, this leaves you open/vulnerable to biting bugs.May 19, 2020 at 12:28 pm #3648137
Ha, no you have to be an old man always on a diet because weight goes on easier than it comes off. My brother was very similar. He ate 6-7 times a day and never put on a single pound. Hiking, he used to carry 2 pounds per day. Depends…May 19, 2020 at 9:01 am #3648079
Yeah, I have in summer: Lean-to rescue for a week, two weeks on the NPT for example.
I only pack 1 pound of food per day, ie, ~2300C/day. The other 2000C per day comes from body fats…I usually have an extra 20 pounds off my body to spare! So for three weeks I cary about something less than 20pounds of food (assuming first day is only supper and final day is only breakfast.)
My total summer pack weight is about 8.5pounds per trip.
So, the total, without stuffing my pockets, 8.5 + 20 or 30.5pounds. For two weeks it is
8.5 + 13 or 22.5 pounds.
Trick, you have to eat enough to not over-do your fat metabolism…Max is about 2000C from fats per day, otherwise you get really tired/exhausted easily.
Trick, you have to be an UltraLight packer.
Really there is no big secret about this.May 19, 2020 at 4:21 am #3648041
Rex, well done. Coincidence or Calculation? But, when I recommend buying a small pack first, it is 3000ci or 50L. Frameless or internal framed usually helps to keep the pack weight low. It is large enough to use bargain basement gear for an entire trip and small enough to handle weekend trips. It is usually around 2pounds, more and it isn’t worth buying, less and it is not durable enough. I still have my internal 3000ci pack from the 70’s. It cost me a whopping $45. However, now I use a Murmur (2100ci or 35L) for trips less than a week. The Murmur is a perfect size for shorter trips. I use an HMG Southwest 2400 for trips up to two/three weeks and find that most of the time this is larger than I need. About the only difference is an extra food bag. Between it and my canoe, I rarely carry more than 45 pounds. But the HMG’s really have excellent hip belts for up to 30-35lbs.
I really enjoyed your article. It has been a few years since I read such a memory invoking piece…it seems nearly every paragraph reminded me of my younger days.May 14, 2020 at 10:39 am #3647104
Jerry, Actually White gas is SAFER according to your criteria.
It is far less volatile than butane/propane. The liquid needs to evaporate before it ignites. Butane/propane is already evaporated. Try dropping a cigarette into a bucket of WG.
Both WG and Propane/butane smell bad. But, if you get liquid gas on you it can linger for a couple days because it is less volatile.
Sorry, but I just don’t see your reasoning.May 14, 2020 at 5:46 am #3647055
Yes, the heat content of WG vs butane/propane is very close. The actual fuel needed is a lot less weight (especially if you use a plastic soda bottle for WG.) The pressure vessel is always heavier. The 100gm of fuel also requires about 100gm of container. But for WG only about 30gm is needed for 500gm fuel. The big downside is the weight of the stove to burn WG.May 14, 2020 at 5:34 am #3647053
Mik, Yes, if you are in an area where such sticks are easily found. I have used stuff up to 3″ around, depending on what I find. It seems funny to see such a solid piece of wood holding up a relatively flimsy tarp…
On many western mountains, this is not a real possibility. You would have to find a stick before krummholz and carry it the rest of the way. An average stick is around 8oz. Hauling it up the hill is about the same as hauling a 4oz pole (what my hiking staff weighs) the entire hike.May 13, 2020 at 5:09 am #3646811
You can use diluted caulk, too. Just paint it on the entire bottom.
A cheap bristle “chip” brish, a little paint thinner or white gas, a small tube of 100% silicone caulk (clear.) Mix a bout 10:1 paint thinner and caulk in a container. Then paint on a thin coat over the entire bottom. Let dry for 24 hours. It can slip if it is wet, but otherwise, it works fine on tent floors.May 13, 2020 at 4:54 am #3646810
There are too many to list. Fiberglass, Graphite (carbon fiber), aluminum (easton) Do a search on “carbon fiber tent poles”(about the best for a straight pole)…you will get a LOT of different options. Ends, connectors, shock cord, are also available.May 12, 2020 at 5:25 am #3646565
Doug, As far as the hipbelt attachment goes, this is relatively old school. I have one pack from the 70″s that has this “upside down” attachment. I removed the hip belt then when putting it back on I flipped it over by mistake. The attachments work OK.May 8, 2020 at 4:58 pm #3645876
I only ever use one. Trails are too scrubbed over in most of the locations I hike in to use two. Open trails I don’t need any. On my daily walks, I never use them.May 8, 2020 at 6:03 am #3645742
Eugene, Looks good. That’s about the same as I get. But, I start at a lower temp (34F, or ice water.) Very Cold starts at 20F.May 7, 2020 at 5:26 am #3645593
Nice job, Eugene! Yeah, almost all alcohol burners are very close in fuel consumption. About 0.6oz/2cups will cover most situations (except very cold.) I use a 1oz/burn (3 cups) to insure things will boil. IFF you use filtered/treated water, about .3oz/cup is good, or, around half normal consumption.May 6, 2020 at 4:52 am #3645376
Yeah, well I think you are moving in the wrong direction. A simple 6×9 tarp weighs about 10oz including a plastic ground cloth. For the 12oz difference between 22oz for the alpine bivy and the 10oz tarp, you could add more down to your bag and not have to worry about condensation inside. I have the SOL Escape bivy and it isn’t quite waterproof nor does it collect a large amount of condensation (it collects some in colder weather,) but it turns any spray/splashback well enough. The 12 oz could be used for a down sweater, also, making it more versatile.May 2, 2020 at 6:03 am #3644639
Yes, I had an old Heinikins can also. Way back when, I was shooting for SUL weights. But, I found it to be very limiting in spring/fall. I went back to UL weights and this is, by far, more convenient. Today I just use a grease pot.Apr 30, 2020 at 6:40 am #3644218
Generally, copper or aluminum works with aluminum being the lightest and copper being best below -10C/14F. Initially, set the aluminum strip a little too far into the flame. It will melt to where it should be and leave a “rind” of rather thick aluminum right next to the flame. Aluminum has nearly as good heat conduction as copper and has less of a start up delay…it doesn’t “soak” up heat like copper does.Apr 23, 2020 at 8:32 pm #3642817
Thanks, Ryan. It was n interesting review.Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 pm #3642411
Yeah, different strokes. I don’t resupply for about 14 days, usually. At about 30oz of water boiled twice per day, an 8oz(220gm) canister will do me for a couple weeks. I have been out for a month at a time when I was working on lean-to’s. The old SVEA is ultra reliable for this. If I was to use alky for this, I would go through about 42oz for 28 days and 21oz for 14 days. A single canister only weighs about 13oz for two weeks, 26oz for a month.Apr 21, 2020 at 6:56 am #3642370
Well, I did a LOT of research into this with a couple dozen different stoves. Here is what I came up with. (I had a lab available about 20 years ago._)
5-6gm for canister fuel for 500ml from 5C in lab
12-15gm Ever Clear from 5C in lab (about 1/2oz)
17-20gm Yellow HEET from 5C in lab (about 5/8oz)
A 100-110gm canister weighs about 100gm (roughly 100% of fuel weight is the can, about 75% of fuel weight is the can for 220gm canisters.)
Bottles for carrying WG or Alcohol are about 30gm up to about a liter.
Alcohol (switching back to ounces.)
Counting stove and fuel only about 3.0oz is needed for one night boiling 2 cups for supper and 2 for breakfast. (I need three cups at every meal or roughly 3.5oz in the field.) 7 nights is around 12.0oz, discounting the differences in alcohol.
Counting stove and can, around 10.25oz is needed for one night. 7nights is about 10.25oz. There is a step function per can.
Least carry weight for 7 nights is Canisters.
(WG and canister fuel have roughly the same heat value.)
For short trips up to 4-5 nights alky is lightest.
Note that I have a good breakfast of oatmeal and 2 cups of coffee. For supper I need 2 cups and I have a cup of cocoa. Depending on your usage, it could be more or less.Apr 15, 2020 at 6:18 pm #3641507
I have a bad neck, also. I have a Southwest 2400 that seems pretty good. I never load it with more than 25lbs. They are all pretty much the same within styles. For example the only difference between 2400 and 3400 is the height of the pack above the mount for the shoulder strap.
I never found the narrowness of the shoulder straps to be a big deal. It might if I ever carried more than 25pounds, but generally the waist belt is good enough to put 70% of the weight on your hips. So, even the rather meager strap width (2.25″,) it works fine. When I first got it this was a worry, because I expected to use this pack for heavier loads. This never materialized…at best I added 2-3 pounds (plus 1 more in the pack.) But this pack is nice in muddy, spring conditions even though it is not a true ultra-light pack for a week at a time. For heavily scrubbed in trails, it performed much better than my usual Murmur, and, it was great when I was with one of my partners. An extra can of gas, an extra cup & spoon, etc.
The Murmur is better at two week intervals on typical late spring, summer and early fall hike. The difference is an extra food bagApr 13, 2020 at 5:01 pm #3641235
Well, it is mud season here in the ADK’s. While hiking is not forbidden, it sure as hell is not encouraged. There are still some people that are trying to get out, maybe most of us backpackers. But we all realize that spreading this to the small towns, marina’s, diners, and so on will be a certain catastrophe. Not quite ice out, probably not for a couple more weeks, so I am simply planning for a trip later on in the year, if I don’t get infected. I can still dream of warm, sun filled afternoons, nice crackling camp fires, and a bunch of MYOG stuff to see me through a frosty night.Apr 11, 2020 at 5:32 am #3640904
Idster, antibodies work. Or, no one would recover.
How Long? Well, that is a valid question. They work at least till you recover from the disease…around 4-6 weeks. Are they immediately flushed out of your system? (I am guessing they have a half life similar to RBC – red blood cells – at 120 days. They are “known” to be human in origin.) Are they still being produced in response to “triggering” infections? (Those infections that could cause the disease with no antibodies present usually trigger the production of more antibodies. However, if this cell dies, then it does not.) This is a simple biochemical feed-back loop. Can it be extracted from a doners blood? This is the million dollar question, some proteins are too fragile for all but complicated extraction techniques. Since they have a test for this, I doubt it is too fragile, though.Apr 11, 2020 at 5:13 am #3640902
Yeah, I agree with Tipi. I bought a pair of originals that lasted about 300 nights each, since I have been only getting about 220. I have been through 6 of them now. I have not ever managed a puncture (knock on wood) but I know sooner or later…
In every case but one, they started to de-laminate/balloon before they actually started leaking, though older valves seem to be more difficult to use.Apr 10, 2020 at 4:58 pm #3640807
jscott, Love it, ha, hey…
Fortunately, a lot of the nike plants only hire older people, so it is kind’of a facetious example…
But it is getting time to ramp up the economy again. This will not be successful unless we can guarantee the people we place in some position will stay there and not take 6 weeks off on sick call after working for 3 weeks. NO … Small and medium sized businesses will be running on a shoe string. That means hiring someone that is worth investing their time into to train for whatever task is needed. And to rely on that person for 49 weeks out of a year (2 weeks vacation and 1 week sick time.) (Hell, Farmer Joe may provide his worker a shot, room, board and minimum farm wages. This brings up a rather interesting question of who controls the disbursement of this type of temporary immunity…)
That will require immune candidates either through antibody resistance or recovered from a COVID19 infection. Don’t forget, this disease will pop up at different times until a full vaccine is developed that does not also sterilize the recipient or cause the development of a second set eyeballs on stalks (not quite a joke.)
Anyway, once we reach approximate 20% for milked antibody resistance, I think we will find the trails to be rather crowded, even in the ADK’s. People will want to get outside, sleep in the woods under the stars and play tag with the bears. Nothing will seem half as scary as a tiny virus they cannot even see.