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- Sep 11, 2017 at 12:42 pm #3490391
ArcteryxSep 10, 2017 at 11:44 pm #3490297
I have the hoody. Great piece of clothing. Very long so it tucks well. Great fitting hood as well. I have been using it mostly for very cold weather runs under a wind shell.
If I had to complain about something I guess it would be that it can be difficult to put it on and pull it off over a base layer as it’s tight fitting and the fabric is clingy. Similarly, some outer layers can be troublesome over the top depending on their material.
Any specific questions you have about it?Sep 6, 2017 at 11:51 am #3489363
Sep 6, 2017 at 3:49 am #3489295
- Look at Paramo
- Gore is supposed to be releasing non-PFC gear late in 2018, but they say they can’t match the performance of typical DWR
- Nikwax products are PFC free
Lots of people seem to be pretty unhappy that this jacket exists. Maybe that’s just their way of showing skepticism.
Personally, I use a MontBell ex-light on some trips and find it very useful for what it is. Patagonia seems to be trying to offer something similar, but with the added functionality that synthetic offers in wet conditions (which really is a valuable benefit). The shell fabric looks to be slightly heavier, Price point is similar too for those that get hung up on price.
Of course, as one of the first posters above pointed out, this synthetic will have to show itself to be as warm as down.
Im also curious about compressibility and longevity.Aug 31, 2017 at 8:16 am #3488072
Maybe they’re too wide for your feet for that application.
I see a lot of push for shoes to get wider and wider lately, but that trend is counter to what I need in a shoe. I’ve concluded that most people here aren’t running and/or hiking the same types of trails that I frequent. I spend a lot of time on steep, technical, often off-camber trails where a wide shoe becomes a liability for me, as they’re sloppy and imprecise. Even having a narrow shoe that can lock in the heel and mid foot with a wide forefoot behaves poorly for my typical use. I can see the appeal, though, for more moderate terrain.
i thought I’d elaborate on my comment with respect to lateral stability. I would say that almost none of the shoes I use offer much for lateral stability. They fit my feet well and connect my foot to the sole of the shoe, but don’t offer what you might be thinking of in terms of lateral support. I’ll reiterate that I don’t think your issue stems from lateral stability features of the shoe, but rather that they don’t fit your feet well enough for that off-trail off-camber type environment. You’re probably stuck trying to find a compromise between a shoe that you love on trail vs. one that fits tighter to your foot for off trail. Just my guess, based on what I’ve found works for me. Maybe you could add a thicker footbed to tighten up the fit when you go off trail like that.
Aug 29, 2017 at 3:19 pm #3487740
- This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by Nathan Watts.
Any suggestions on base layer considerations to try to extend the time you could go between required washing to clean the membrane?Aug 27, 2017 at 7:04 pm #3487358
Interesting plot twist. So after determining you weren’t going to buy Arcteryx products, deeming shells w/out pit zips as useless, and preferring neoshell to goretex, you ended up with an Alpha FL?
Curious how you arrived at that decision? Also wondering what conditions are going to determine which of your shells you will bring? I use an older alpha fl by the way. I have not tried either of your other two jackets to compare, though I have tried and moved on from quite a few wpb shells over the years
And how come you’re not counting your Westcomb Apoc against your budget? Is that considered more of a soft shell because of the stretch?Aug 26, 2017 at 2:36 pm #3487179
You’re all over the place, man. First off you’re comparing a 5oz shell to your 17oz, $520 Apoc. Most here probably have little interest in such a heavy shell. For most of us a WP shell is, in fact, an emergency item that spends 99% of its life inside a pack.
Have you even tried on your Apoc yet, that you speak so highly of? You were literally seeking suggestions for a shell just days ago. What are you’re experiences with the fabric wetting out on you?
Pit zips are great, I’ll give you that. But they do add bulk to these shells, and for me, packed volume is a big factor when choosing a WP shell.
Keep doing your research. Eventually you’ll figure out that this fabric doesn’t use Mylar, but eVent instead. That’s how they make it breathable
And lastly, above you said this jacket wasnt any good but you just finished saying it would be pretty sweet. Like I said, you’re all over the place. Haha.
Edit: wanted to state that I have no opinion yet on the HMG Shell. I’m skeptical, but if it does prove to be durable and somewhat breathable, it would be something I’d consider.
Aug 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm #3487027
- This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by Nathan Watts.
Try looking for bike shirts. You’ll find more short sleeve zippered optionsAug 24, 2017 at 6:43 pm #3486925
i use an Arcteryx Norvan SL for mountain running. That’s the one I was referencing above that doesn’t use DWR. I use a more traditional gore-Tex jacket for backpacking. The Norvan really isn’t made for backpacking.Aug 24, 2017 at 6:06 pm #3486919
“I dont think this is a great product tbh”
Why not Michael? Do you have experience with it? I’m interested in how durable and how breathable it is. I like the lack of DWR dependency. I use a goretex jacket that breathes well and doesn’t rely on dwr, but it’s fragile.Aug 24, 2017 at 12:15 pm #3486853
RE: “2. Does this use a DWR?”
From the q&a section:
The material does not require use of DWR, however regular washing of your jacket will help to rid the fibers of sweat and oils to maintain optimal waterproofing, breathability, and general performance over time.Aug 23, 2017 at 7:03 am #3486610
Why not just list out the Arcteryx pieces that you honed in on and were just about to pull the trigger on before your last minute change of heart
then people can suggest similar pieces from your preferred brand and their experience with them.Jul 27, 2017 at 6:38 am #3481382
I’m a big inov-8 fan myself and would probably be interested in a similar shoe to what you’re after.
I use f-lite 195 and x-talon 190 extensively and haven’t come across any other brands that compare with the inov-8 sticky rubber soles for grip, especially in wet conditions on rock. Even the stickiest running shoes available from la sportiva were surprisingly inferior in my experience. I haven’t tried any of the newer Salomons with Wet Contragrip yet. I also haven’t been happy with the mixed compound soles from inov-8 (tri-C?)
thought i’d share that experience since you’re starting from what I think is one of the best shoes ever made for the conditions you describe. Might be hard to find a good replacementJul 3, 2017 at 10:26 pm #3476929
I’d recommend trekking poles for Garfield ridge coming off Lafayette if you’re heading clockwise. Otherwise I personally wouldn’t take them.
You wont need any microspikes.Jun 11, 2017 at 12:29 pm #3472797
No, I haven’t found it too hot. But it rarely gets used in summer. Mostly stays in the pack. The times it does get used tend to be in pretty nasty conditions above treeline with heavy winds and driving rain. When a storm lets up I’ve found it sufficient to unzip the front a bit to manage temperature vs. taking the jacket off and on as the rain comes and goes.Jun 8, 2017 at 7:13 am #3472273
I hike and run in New England and use an Alpha FL. Love the fit and at the time I purchased it, packed volume was one of my concerns for fitting into a running pack. So I would have favored it over the AR for that reason.
Now I’ve added a Norvan SL for running trips, so the Alpha is just for backpacking and winter use. I’d probably prefer the AR at this point for the pit zips and the ability to fit bulkier layers underneath. Having at least one pocket is very convenient. I don’t find the second pocket necessary.
Both are really overkill for light NE summer stuff, from a cost standpoint.Apr 30, 2017 at 6:57 am #3465511
- Patagonia sells the Strider Pro shorts with tons of waistband pockets. Most aren’t zippered, but you won’t lose anything out of them. The rear center pocket is zipped. Pocket lie flat when not filled. My favorite running shorts, but haven’t tried them with a backpack.
They also sell sell the Nine Trails shorts with zippered front pockets. I’ve only tried them on and remember not being a fan, but can’t remember why not.
Ive got a pair of Salomon Float shorts with deep zippered front pockets. These are unlined shorts. Probably the most appropriate for backpacking of the three I’ve listed here. They’re long.Apr 3, 2017 at 6:35 pm #3461349
What color?Mar 16, 2017 at 4:47 pm #3457219
Why not take the cash. Use your card, not your dividend for whatever you buy, and collect cash back on your purchase.
using your dividend will forfeit your opportunity for more cash back.Feb 27, 2017 at 7:45 am #3453086
PM sent on inov-8sJan 8, 2017 at 6:15 pm #3443898
I put a pre-order in a few weeks ago through rei. This jacket ticks off just about all the boxes for me for day-long runs in the mountains.
Hopefully they come through with the orders.Dec 26, 2016 at 5:07 pm #3441924
The zipper seems like an OK compromise for a RUNNING jacket. I sometimes use a Gore WindStopper jacket that doesn’t have taped seams for similar purposes. Works rather well. There’s a flap over that zipper though. Go figure.Dec 24, 2016 at 8:44 am #3441747
JCH, maybe Woubeir meant you should contact Arcteryx to see if you’ve got a defective one. None of the reviews on their site mention leaking, but those might be filtered to only show positive reviews.Dec 24, 2016 at 8:40 am #3441745
Still shows as 4.2oz on the US site.